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Post by kb24 on Jan 19, 2014 19:07:50 GMT -8
Truth, I hope you don't mind me stealing your thunder a bit...I just can't wait till the 2nd.
Denver Broncos vs. Seattle Seahawks
Best offense vs. Best defense
Who ya got?
I gotta go with the Broncos on this one, as it might be Manning's last year and it would be a hell of a way to go out with another ring a la Ray Lewis. Plus, I don't like Carroll or the annoying Richard Sherman(hell of a play at the end though). Whichever way it goes, it should be a hell of a game.
Broncos 27 Seahawks 19
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Post by chiefsdodgerslakers24 on Jan 19, 2014 19:12:04 GMT -8
I might be a Chiefs fan, but Richard Sherman disgusted me beyond belief and finding out that Seahawks fans were throwing food on Navarro Bowman as he was being carted off the field. I am not making any predictions, I just want the Broncos to curb stomp Seattle.
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Post by TruthTella2 on Jan 20, 2014 1:22:54 GMT -8
I don't think the best offense has ever beaten the best defense. Didn't they try that with Oakland and Tampa and it was a Tampa blowout?
Plus Denver Defense is terrible so no balance and a cold weather game wich Peyton manning is terrible in.
Seattle 35 - Denver 24
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Post by shopson67 on Jan 20, 2014 7:23:15 GMT -8
That Oakland/Tampa game isn't exactly a good example. Gruden had just left Oakland for Tampa and Oakland didn't bother to change their play calls at all. Gruden knew what was coming the whole time.
That said, cold weather game and that Seattle defense is tough. Seattle 21, Denver 20.
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Post by TruthTella2 on Jan 20, 2014 8:01:10 GMT -8
That Oakland/Tampa game isn't exactly a good example. Gruden had just left Oakland for Tampa and Oakland didn't bother to change their play calls at all. Gruden knew what was coming the whole time. That said, cold weather game and that Seattle defense is tough. Seattle 21, Denver 20. Any examples of elite offense over elite defense though? |
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Post by shopson67 on Jan 20, 2014 9:22:46 GMT -8
That Oakland/Tampa game isn't exactly a good example. Gruden had just left Oakland for Tampa and Oakland didn't bother to change their play calls at all. Gruden knew what was coming the whole time. That said, cold weather game and that Seattle defense is tough. Seattle 21, Denver 20. Any examples of elite offense over elite defense though? I'm sure there are, but I'm not interested enough to dig for one lol. |
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jan 20, 2014 16:10:06 GMT -8
I don't think Broncos will be stopped. I'm not sure Demaryius will be affected by their corners and I think Peyton might end up picking on that defense a little bit with all his options. Moreno being out is interesting though. Monte Ball? Broncos defense is suspect but I'm not sure Seattle can score enough on them to make up for the 27 or more points Denver will put up.
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jan 20, 2014 16:10:33 GMT -8
Definitely the two best teams in the league though. Whoever wins will deserve it 100%.
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Post by TruthTella2 on Jan 20, 2014 16:29:22 GMT -8
I don't think Broncos will be stopped. I'm not sure Demaryius will be affected by their corners and I think Peyton might end up picking on that defense a little bit with all his options. Moreno being out is interesting though. Monte Ball? Broncos defense is suspect but I'm not sure Seattle can score enough on them to make up for the 27 or more points Denver will put up. I'm not sure Denver can break 20. Especially in the likely below freezing temperatures with possible snow and wind. Lynch will control this game |
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jan 20, 2014 17:21:42 GMT -8
Lynch very well could. Wouldn't put it past him.
I'm not sure cold temp is going to hurt Peyton and the Broncos much if at all. Possible snow and wind could have an impact but I'm skeptical of snow/wind until we're actually getting close to the game. Weather forecasters have a hard time telling people what the weather is going to be like a couple days from now and don't know much at all about 2 weeks from now besides "it will be cold". I heard they are expecting a big front within the next few days so it could be gone by the time the game comes unless they get another front following.
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Post by TruthTella2 on Jan 20, 2014 17:34:29 GMT -8
Lynch very well could. Wouldn't put it past him. I'm not sure cold temp is going to hurt Peyton and the Broncos much if at all. Possible snow and wind could have an impact but I'm skeptical of snow/wind until we're actually getting close to the game. Weather forecasters have a hard time telling people what the weather is going to be like a couple days from now and don't know much at all about 2 weeks from now besides "it will be cold". I heard they are expecting a big front within the next few days so it could be gone by the time the game comes unless they get another front following. Peyton is not a very good cold weather QB, already gets little zip on his passes and now faces LOB who some are saying might be best ever? 4-7 record in cold weather including only going for 150 yards against NE last time they faced. Went for 400 this game, but weather was 60 degrees.. Now if there's wins as well, who knows? Majority of people are also hoping this game is in a blizzard. (53% on ESPN last time I saw) 1 dimensional offense with a quality corner to match up with each receiver, a LB core that has owned TEs, and with that secondary holding longer coverage pass rush should get to Peyton easier than his previous games were he basically saw no pressure Could be very interesting |
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Post by TruthTella2 on Jan 20, 2014 23:28:18 GMT -8
Seattle one of the last remaining smash mouth football teams vs Denver a finesse dink and dunk team
A true match up of new and old School and the interesting thing is the young QB is old School while the old QB is new School
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Post by shopson67 on Jan 21, 2014 5:23:09 GMT -8
I don't think Broncos will be stopped. I'm not sure Demaryius will be affected by their corners and I think Peyton might end up picking on that defense a little bit with all his options. Moreno being out is interesting though. Monte Ball? Broncos defense is suspect but I'm not sure Seattle can score enough on them to make up for the 27 or more points Denver will put up. Demaryius was having trouble with Akib Talib, who is not in the same class as Sherman in my opinion. The game will come down to how they call the contact in the WR/DB matchups. If they let some contact go, Seattle has the upper hand. If they call it close, Denver will be tough to stop. |
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jan 21, 2014 15:34:39 GMT -8
I don't think Broncos will be stopped. I'm not sure Demaryius will be affected by their corners and I think Peyton might end up picking on that defense a little bit with all his options. Moreno being out is interesting though. Monte Ball? Broncos defense is suspect but I'm not sure Seattle can score enough on them to make up for the 27 or more points Denver will put up. Demaryius was having trouble with Akib Talib, who is not in the same class as Sherman in my opinion. The game will come down to how they call the contact in the WR/DB matchups. If they let some contact go, Seattle has the upper hand. If they call it close, Denver will be tough to stop. Completely different matchup regarding Sherman vs DT / Talib vs DT. I do think Sherman is the better DB for sure though. |
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jan 21, 2014 15:41:13 GMT -8
Lynch very well could. Wouldn't put it past him. I'm not sure cold temp is going to hurt Peyton and the Broncos much if at all. Possible snow and wind could have an impact but I'm skeptical of snow/wind until we're actually getting close to the game. Weather forecasters have a hard time telling people what the weather is going to be like a couple days from now and don't know much at all about 2 weeks from now besides "it will be cold". I heard they are expecting a big front within the next few days so it could be gone by the time the game comes unless they get another front following. Peyton is not a very good cold weather QB, already gets little zip on his passes and now faces LOB who some are saying might be best ever? 4-7 record in cold weather including only going for 150 yards against NE last time they faced. Went for 400 this game, but weather was 60 degrees.. Now if there's wins as well, who knows? Majority of people are also hoping this game is in a blizzard. (53% on ESPN last time I saw) 1 dimensional offense with a quality corner to match up with each receiver, a LB core that has owned TEs, and with that secondary holding longer coverage pass rush should get to Peyton easier than his previous games were he basically saw no pressure Could be very interesting It is going to be very interesting. I saw how quick Seattle LBs wrap guys up when WRs catch those little passes over the middle like Peyton loves to throw. Niners receivers almost went for negative yardage when they tried those plays. Peyton loves to hit DT on those short routes to give him room to get YAC but against Seattle? Eek, not sure how that's going to work out - if there's wind/snow/cold then the Broncos will NEED to get those shorter pass plays going for first downs. Peyton relies on his WRs to get off the line quick with moves and Seattle is known to make that difficult. His offensive line better come ready to play because Seattle is rough up front and if their defense is able to get to Peyton and get hits on him then that could be it. |
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Post by kb24 on Jan 21, 2014 17:01:02 GMT -8
That's exactly how I feel. If his line gives him plenty of time to throw like they did against NE, Peyton will pick apart even Seattle's secondary, IMO. However, if he's getting pressured left and right, Peyton will struggle and may throw a couple of picks as well.
On the other side, Denver's front 7 have got to be ready for Lynch because they'll get a steady dose of him throughout the game. If they can control the running game and force Seattle to throw more than they'd like, that'd certainly be better for Denver because I don't think too many teams fear the trio of Baldwin, Tate, and Kearse.
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Post by shopson67 on Jan 21, 2014 17:05:25 GMT -8
That's exactly how I feel. If his line gives him plenty of time to throw like they did against NE, Peyton will pick apart even Seattle's secondary, IMO. However, if he's getting pressured left and right, Peyton will struggle and may throw a couple of picks as well. On the other side, Denver's front 7 have got to be ready for Lynch because they'll get a steady dose of him throughout the game. If they can control the running game and force Seattle to throw more than they'd like, that'd certainly be better for Denver because I don't think too many teams fear the trio of Baldwin, Tate, and Kearse. Harvin is expected to be available as well. It might only be for 30 seconds, but he should at least be ready to play. |
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Post by kb24 on Jan 21, 2014 17:22:08 GMT -8
That's exactly how I feel. If his line gives him plenty of time to throw like they did against NE, Peyton will pick apart even Seattle's secondary, IMO. However, if he's getting pressured left and right, Peyton will struggle and may throw a couple of picks as well. On the other side, Denver's front 7 have got to be ready for Lynch because they'll get a steady dose of him throughout the game. If they can control the running game and force Seattle to throw more than they'd like, that'd certainly be better for Denver because I don't think too many teams fear the trio of Baldwin, Tate, and Kearse. Harvin is expected to be available as well. It might only be for 30 seconds, but he should at least be ready to play. Lol, yeah, you never know when he'll be down. That gives Seattle a legitimate deep threat, which gives the Broncos something to think about. One other thing that I forgot to mention is that in this game the Seahawks won't have to worry about a scrambling QB with Peyton like they did last week with Kap, which of course will make everyone's job in their defense a little easier. Who said that Moreno was out of the game? All BSPN has to say about him is that the rib x-rays were negative and that he's day-to-day. I'm sure that in 2 weeks he'll be good to go. If he's not for whatever reason, that's a pretty big blow to Denver. |
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Post by TruthTella2 on Jan 21, 2014 18:21:30 GMT -8
That's exactly how I feel. If his line gives him plenty of time to throw like they did against NE, Peyton will pick apart even Seattle's secondary, IMO. However, if he's getting pressured left and right, Peyton will struggle and may throw a couple of picks as well. On the other side, Denver's front 7 have got to be ready for Lynch because they'll get a steady dose of him throughout the game. If they can control the running game and force Seattle to throw more than they'd like, that'd certainly be better for Denver because I don't think too many teams fear the trio of Baldwin, Tate, and Kearse. Baldwin killed 49ers. Also Harvin will be back which completely opens up the running game as teams always double him Seattle has a quality pass rush and it should have a better time rushing than NE, because Seattle corners can hold coverage longer and also jam off the box. Likely means holding onto ball longer |
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Post by kb24 on Jan 21, 2014 21:14:04 GMT -8
That's exactly how I feel. If his line gives him plenty of time to throw like they did against NE, Peyton will pick apart even Seattle's secondary, IMO. However, if he's getting pressured left and right, Peyton will struggle and may throw a couple of picks as well. On the other side, Denver's front 7 have got to be ready for Lynch because they'll get a steady dose of him throughout the game. If they can control the running game and force Seattle to throw more than they'd like, that'd certainly be better for Denver because I don't think too many teams fear the trio of Baldwin, Tate, and Kearse. Baldwin killed 49ers. Also Harvin will be back which completely opens up the running game as teams always double him Seattle has a quality pass rush and it should have a better time rushing than NE, because Seattle corners can hold coverage longer and also jam off the box. Likely means holding onto ball longer Baldwin did have a big game against the 9ers, but he's still a mediocre receiver. True, Harvin will be back--I had forgotten about that--but for how long? The dude seems to be frail. Not sure if you saw the Broncos-Pats game but Peyton had so much time back there the guy could've been making coffee for his whole team and he'd never get disturbed. I don't think he was pressured once throughout the game..it was ridiculous. Seattle better pressure Peyton more than NE did--they could pay a dear price if they don't. Peyton with time to check his options + the number of quality options available to him = trouble for even Seattle's vaunted secondary. Only so long before one of those guys gets open you know. |
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