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Post by history2b on Jan 21, 2024 22:16:29 GMT -8
(no homo)
DLo looked like a defeated man 3 weeks ago, struggling with his shot and flow, getting murked on defense and clearly bothered by the renewed trade talks.
But now he’s strung together a slew of really solid games, none better than tonight’s. He was feeling it and it was great to see. When he plays like this it makes me reluctant to trade him for anyone short of a superstar. The deadweight on the team really is Gabe Vincent who ate up our full MLE and has given us 5 games and 12% 3p. Rui is also somewhat deadweight contract wise relative to the amount he is paid vs what he gives us. I really like Rui but Ham, like all his coaches before him, have failed to carve out a consistent role. I’d give him up if another team will take Street Clothes Vincent with him.
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Post by la86 on Jan 22, 2024 8:00:57 GMT -8
Any deal with D'Lo would end up a lateral move. Murray? Why are the Hawks giving up non him? His defense has regressed and never a solid 3 point shooter. I would move a mix of Rui, Vincent, Hood and a pick in the right deal. Target Bruce Brown. Super solid role player. Forget a superstar. Would gut the roster again.
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Post by history2b on Jan 22, 2024 9:37:01 GMT -8
Any deal with D'Lo would end up a lateral move. Murray? Why are the Hawks giving up non him? His defense has regressed and never a solid 3 point shooter. I would move a mix of Rui, Vincent, Hood and a pick in the right deal. Target Bruce Brown. Super solid role player. Forget a superstar. Would gut the roster again. I wouldn’t hate a DLo swap for Murray but agree it’s probably more lateral than a significant upgrade. His defense is better for sure than DLo’s but he has regressed from his all defensive team potential he had back in his Spur days. Perhaps Ham and company can get that back in line. His 3p shooting this year is solid at 38% but still not on DLo’s level 41%. DLo is probably a better passer too. However, the speed and pace that Dejounte can play is significantly higher than DLo’s and it would play into the Ham scheme better imo. Reportedly our offer was the 2029 1st, JHS and DLo. I could live with all that but anymore and it’s probably not smart. Still, when I see DLo shoot like he did last night I know we need that type of shooter on our team. |
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Post by odogg on Jan 22, 2024 9:40:46 GMT -8
(no homo) DLo looked like a defeated man 3 weeks ago, struggling with his shot and flow, getting murked on defense and clearly bothered by the renewed trade talks. But now he’s strung together a slew of really solid games, none better than tonight’s. He was feeling it and it was great to see. When he plays like this it makes me reluctant to trade him for anyone short of a superstar. The deadweight on the team really is Gabe Vincent who ate up our full MLE and has given us 5 games and 12% 3p. Rui is also somewhat deadweight contract wise relative to the amount he is paid vs what he gives us. I really like Rui but Ham, like all his coaches before him, have failed to carve out a consistent role. I’d give him up if another team will take Street Clothes Vincent with him. I see a nice budding chemistry with DLo, AD, and LBJ. There were a couple beautiful hockey assists in the Mavs game he had with that tandem. We could potentially have a big 3 here (at least from the offensive side). |
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Post by history2b on Jan 22, 2024 9:58:10 GMT -8
(no homo) DLo looked like a defeated man 3 weeks ago, struggling with his shot and flow, getting murked on defense and clearly bothered by the renewed trade talks. But now he’s strung together a slew of really solid games, none better than tonight’s. He was feeling it and it was great to see. When he plays like this it makes me reluctant to trade him for anyone short of a superstar. The deadweight on the team really is Gabe Vincent who ate up our full MLE and has given us 5 games and 12% 3p. Rui is also somewhat deadweight contract wise relative to the amount he is paid vs what he gives us. I really like Rui but Ham, like all his coaches before him, have failed to carve out a consistent role. I’d give him up if another team will take Street Clothes Vincent with him. I see a nice budding chemistry with DLo, AD, and LBJ. There were a couple beautiful hockey assists in the Mavs game he had with that tandem. We could potentially have a big 3 here (at least from the offensive side). I don’t see it happening that way because of the defense. Eventually, someone will target him and exploit. Playoff basketball is different. The role he could have is the jumpstarter; he starts games, looks to get that flow going and surge the team offensively. Pick and rolls, dropping 3s. When those parts get shut down he is a negative on the floor. This is why Minnesota cast him off despite being tight with Towns. They didn’t find him reliable in the clutch. Last year when we turned things around he was a catalyst but Dennis was the one we finished the toughest of games with. He was tougher, more sly defensively and was a timely playmaker. We miss that type of role player more than anything right now. Dejounte Murray is like a bigger, younger Dennis in a lot of ways imo. Sadly, we need both him and DLo to really have that balance. |
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jan 22, 2024 10:37:26 GMT -8
Love seeing him penetrate and sucking in the D. He knows how to deliver the goods to guys in full stride and rhythm. He was splashing deep money shots all night, even added a few beautiful floaters on dudes heads.
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Post by history2b on Jan 22, 2024 13:53:11 GMT -8
Love seeing him penetrate and sucking in the D. He knows how to deliver the goods to guys in full stride and rhythm. He was splashing deep money shots all night, even added a few beautiful floaters on dudes heads. 😳 |
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Post by chiefsdodgerslakers24 on Jan 22, 2024 14:25:58 GMT -8
There are rumblings of the Lakers discussing a Dejounte Murray trade with him going the other way and I honestly see that as a trade that won't move the needle. Murray is having by far the best shooting season of his career but everything about it screams fluke. Every other year of his career has legitimately been not good shooting and trading D'lo would be trading the Lakers best volume 3 point shooter. It'd probably make it a lot harder for Bron and AD offensively while only helping a little defensively. Lakers shouldn't be trying to do more than package Vincent and a picks to get a backup ball handler and possibly a rim protector too.
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Post by shopson67 on Jan 24, 2024 9:29:43 GMT -8
Any deal with D'Lo would end up a lateral move. Murray? Why are the Hawks giving up non him? His defense has regressed and never a solid 3 point shooter. I would move a mix of Rui, Vincent, Hood and a pick in the right deal. Target Bruce Brown. Super solid role player. Forget a superstar. Would gut the roster again. I wouldn’t hate a DLo swap for Murray but agree it’s probably more lateral than a significant upgrade. His defense is better for sure than DLo’s but he has regressed from his all defensive team potential he had back in his Spur days. Perhaps Ham and company can get that back in line. His 3p shooting this year is solid at 38% but still not on DLo’s level 41%. DLo is probably a better passer too. However, the speed and pace that Dejounte can play is significantly higher than DLo’s and it would play into the Ham scheme better imo. Reportedly our offer was the 2029 1st, JHS and DLo. I could live with all that but anymore and it’s probably not smart. Still, when I see DLo shoot like he did last night I know we need that type of shooter on our team. I think there was a pick swap offered too. Need to find a third team for DLo. |
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Post by shopson67 on Jan 24, 2024 9:31:23 GMT -8
I know it's sacrilege to speak ill of him, but the guy that has been coming up short more often has been Reaves.
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Post by history2b on Jan 24, 2024 10:51:08 GMT -8
I know it's sacrilege to speak ill of him, but the guy that has been coming up short more often has been Reaves. He’s been struggling for sure. Moving him to the starting lineup was a mistake. He was thriving as the 6th man. He struggled as a starter to start the season, then when moved to the bench he blossomed into a strong game breaker. Then in Ham’s desperation to save himself he thrust him back in the starting lineup. I know Jeanie and Rob won’t fire Ham this season but any coach who cluelessly does what he’s done in this specific regard to lineups doesn’t know what he’s doing. |
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Post by la86 on Jan 24, 2024 11:40:52 GMT -8
I would go after Bruce Brown and start him with D'Lo. Pairing D'Lo and Reaves heavy minutes really hurts the defense. I would think the Lakers could out a deal together for Brown that does not include D'Lo.
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Post by lakeshow on Jan 24, 2024 12:20:07 GMT -8
I know it's sacrilege to speak ill of him, but the guy that has been coming up short more often has been Reaves. He’s been struggling for sure. Moving him to the starting lineup was a mistake. He was thriving as the 6th man. He struggled as a starter to start the season, then when moved to the bench he blossomed into a strong game breaker. Then in Ham’s desperation to save himself he thrust him back in the starting lineup. I know Jeanie and Rob won’t fire Ham this season but any coach who cluelessly does what he’s done in this specific regard to lineups doesn’t know what he’s doing. Thus, a big reason why I said 2 months ago (and continue to say), that our main problem is not the roster, but Ham's incompetency to put these guys in a successful position to win. Austin will be fine if he's coached correctly. I do not want him traded, period. |
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Post by shopson67 on Jan 25, 2024 13:00:00 GMT -8
He’s been struggling for sure. Moving him to the starting lineup was a mistake. He was thriving as the 6th man. He struggled as a starter to start the season, then when moved to the bench he blossomed into a strong game breaker. Then in Ham’s desperation to save himself he thrust him back in the starting lineup. I know Jeanie and Rob won’t fire Ham this season but any coach who cluelessly does what he’s done in this specific regard to lineups doesn’t know what he’s doing. Thus, a big reason why I said 2 months ago (and continue to say), that our main problem is not the roster, but Ham's incompetency to put these guys in a successful position to win. Austin will be fine if he's coached correctly. I do not want him traded, period. I think Reaves is a lottery ticket waiting to be cashed. He has a plus contract due to going undrafted, but what is his ceiling? Is he going to become more than he is (or was last year), or is close to his ceiling? If teams are overvaluing him now, this might be the time (this year, this summer, etc) to cash that chip. If moving Reaves allows the Lakers to keep that 2029 first out of a deal (or which ever 1st this summer), that would be good value. |
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Post by chiefsdodgerslakers24 on Jan 25, 2024 19:37:33 GMT -8
I would go after Bruce Brown and start him with D'Lo. Pairing D'Lo and Reaves heavy minutes really hurts the defense. I would think the Lakers could out a deal together for Brown that does not include D'Lo. I'll be pissed if we give up assets for Brown. Signing him for the MLE would've been one thing, moving d'lo and/or Rui for him? hard pass. Lakers have an offense problem and he would only hurt that. He's a garbage 3 point shooter. |
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Post by la86 on Jan 25, 2024 20:38:21 GMT -8
I would not trade D'Lo, Reaves or Rui for Brown. I would trade Vincent, Hood and parts to match saleries. I believe the Lakers need to send out 17m even though Brown makes 22m.
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Post by la86 on Jan 25, 2024 20:39:36 GMT -8
Raptors would hang up on Rob though. Add the 29 1st rounder. Maybe they bite.
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Post by history2b on Jan 25, 2024 20:57:49 GMT -8
DLo is going 2Pac… Still Ballin’
AR having a solid game too.
But Jarred Vanderbilt changes games. His relentless energy on defense became infectious and changed the game at the end of the 2nd quarter.
Team holding strong in the 3rd thus far.
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Post by history2b on Jan 25, 2024 21:09:56 GMT -8
Still ballin’
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Post by la86 on Jan 25, 2024 21:11:09 GMT -8
Something clicked for D'Lo. Hope it sticks as his skill set is what this team needs. Every 3 he puts up feels like it is going in.
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