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Post by lakeshow on Mar 7, 2024 8:23:39 GMT -8
This is not going to end well fellas, we're a team that's basically destined to win 1 or 2 games, then lose a game or two the rest of the season squeaking in the playoffs and getting it handed to us in the 1st round. A constant state of misery........all while projecting to the fans the false hope of doing something in the postseason because of a few spectacular games by old man Lebron on one leg. Then watching him have to sit out or play like trash the next game because he's gassed or because of some nagging injury. And on and on and on......while continuing to hold our breath that AD won't go down with an injury. It's so tired man. And honestly, I haven't been excited watching this team play all season with the exception of the last 2 games of the in-season tournament. Ham is a disaster and I tend to agree that he won't get fired until the postseason at the earliest. My wife asked me if I wanted to go see the Lakers play in Memphis next month and I told her I would pass because based on how they're playing, it's not worth the drive to Memphis from where I live. Bumping this thread because this has largely been the trend thus far. There's an occasional 3 game winning streak sometimes followed by a 2-3 game losing streak. Lebron left the game early last night due to his ankle. Chances are he may sit out the next game but even if he plays, I don't think he'll play well (we play the Bucks at home on tomorrow night). Ham continues to suck as a coach and is in over his head. And while I understand that there's a lot of clickbait reports out there, I'm confident players are not happy with Ham. Already I'm hearing Lebron is completely tuning out Ham in the timeout huddles and doing whatever he wants on the court. And that top 5 team defense Ham had has now slipped to the middle of the pack league wise--ranked #17 to be specific. With Lebron compromised this team is going nowhere. Hate to say it, but that's the reality. Even if we did make a run, this team is not winning a championship with Ham as the coach either. He'll get outcoached by the Malone and Spoelstra types deep in the playoffs. Sure, it's nice to have more complementary parts back but at the end of the day this team will live or die on the health of Lebron--and he's already compromised healthwise imo. So, we're sitting in the 10th spot in the West now, and we'll have to fight like hell just to stay in the play-in and if we make through that, then we'll have to play a hungry Minnesota team or Denver who has owned us all season in the first round. Don't mean to be doom and gloom, but that's my honest assessment of this team. |
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Post by history2b on Mar 7, 2024 10:09:10 GMT -8
Lebron should have gotten surgery on that ankle immediately after the season last year imo. He was quiet all summer about it and when training camp started it was revealed he opted not to.
Now, another 60 games later it’s an issue… again.
Regarding the Laker defense, once we lost Vanderbilt and even Cam the defense had no chance of being top 10. Our starting lineup with Rui Reaves and DLo is always going to have defensive deficiencies. Without Vando this team has no shot at winning anything significant, he’s literally that important. If we had Spoelstra as our coach could have made due without him but not with Darvin Ham.
I agree with you that the team has tuned out Ham and while they appear to be on that track it’s not full tune out a la Vogel 2022. Even so, any team that is off base with its coach is a walking dead team. Jeanie Buss and Rob Pelinka have failed us big time.
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Post by chiefsdodgerslakers24 on Mar 7, 2024 10:53:06 GMT -8
Lebron should have gotten surgery on that ankle immediately after the season last year imo. He was quiet all summer about it and when training camp started it was revealed he opted not to. Now, another 60 games later it’s an issue… again. Regarding the Laker defense, once we lost Vanderbilt and even Cam the defense had no chance of being top 10. Our starting lineup with Rui Reaves and DLo is always going to have defensive deficiencies. Without Vando this team has no shot at winning anything significant, he’s literally that important. If we had Spoelstra as our coach could have made due without him but not with Darvin Ham. I agree with you that the team has tuned out Ham and while they appear to be on that track it’s not full tune out a la Vogel 2022. Even so, any team that is off base with its coach is a walking dead team. Jeanie Buss and Rob Pelinka have failed us big time. Do we even know if he did or didn’t? I’ve seen him roll his ankle a few times this season |
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Post by shaolinfighter on Mar 7, 2024 11:11:34 GMT -8
Last season it was his right foot, this season its his left ankle after he rolled it earlier in season. I do remember him telling reporters he would never tell them if he got surgery on his right foot or not. I'm guessing he didn't but have no idea of course.
He said after the game last night that he'll be alright and that was good to hear. AD specifically called out the coaching staffs defensive strategy after the game in so many words. I don't think they're happy with Ham. If there wasn't a play-in tournament the Lakers would be out of the playoffs. I think Ham is fired after this season ends unless a miracle occurs. It appears to be two more wasted years of this duo led by a coach who ultimately wasn't ready for the task of guiding a team thru the best coaches/teams in the league. They should be led by an elite coach - there's no excuse for the Lakers not to. Jeanie may need to step aside and let one of the Buss boys take over.
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Post by history2b on Mar 7, 2024 12:45:30 GMT -8
Last season it was his right foot, this season its his left ankle after he rolled it earlier in season. I do remember him telling reporters he would never tell them if he got surgery on his right foot or not. I'm guessing he didn't but have no idea of course. He said after the game last night that he'll be alright and that was good to hear. AD specifically called out the coaching staffs defensive strategy after the game in so many words. I don't think they're happy with Ham. If there wasn't a play-in tournament the Lakers would be out of the playoffs. I think Ham is fired after this season ends unless a miracle occurs. It appears to be two more wasted years of this duo led by a coach who ultimately wasn't ready for the task of guiding a team thru the best coaches/teams in the league. They should be led by an elite coach - there's no excuse for the Lakers not to. Jeanie may need to step aside and let one of the Buss boys take over. I believe you that Lebron said that to a reporter but I also heard him say directly to the question during training camp that no he didn’t get surgery. Although if it’s the other wheel it doesn’t really matter. It’s just a matter of reality for a 21 year player who played deep into the playoffs most of those years. It’s a miracle he’s still able to do what he does now despite it all. Re: Jeanie… fat chance that happening. She’s riding the wave of women empowerment, the 1st NBA governor etc. I’m positive that she has an ego because of this and while I support women in positions of power there has to be the same accountability as men or it’s entitlement. She’ll likely never step down and certainly never hand back power to a man from her family. |
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Post by odogg on Mar 7, 2024 14:14:18 GMT -8
How the fuck does Fox drop 44 on us? Put Dennis on him! Oh wait.
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Post by shaolinfighter on Mar 7, 2024 14:42:20 GMT -8
Last season it was his right foot, this season its his left ankle after he rolled it earlier in season. I do remember him telling reporters he would never tell them if he got surgery on his right foot or not. I'm guessing he didn't but have no idea of course. He said after the game last night that he'll be alright and that was good to hear. AD specifically called out the coaching staffs defensive strategy after the game in so many words. I don't think they're happy with Ham. If there wasn't a play-in tournament the Lakers would be out of the playoffs. I think Ham is fired after this season ends unless a miracle occurs. It appears to be two more wasted years of this duo led by a coach who ultimately wasn't ready for the task of guiding a team thru the best coaches/teams in the league. They should be led by an elite coach - there's no excuse for the Lakers not to. Jeanie may need to step aside and let one of the Buss boys take over. I believe you that Lebron said that to a reporter but I also heard him say directly to the question during training camp that no he didn’t get surgery. Although if it’s the other wheel it doesn’t really matter. It’s just a matter of reality for a 21 year player who played deep into the playoffs most of those years. It’s a miracle he’s still able to do what he does now despite it all. Re: Jeanie… fat chance that happening. She’s riding the wave of women empowerment, the 1st NBA governor etc. I’m positive that she has an ego because of this and while I support women in positions of power there has to be the same accountability as men or it’s entitlement. She’ll likely never step down and certainly never hand back power to a man from her family. Yup doesn't really matter which foot in year 21 as both his tires at this point are running low on tread. A young buck can soldier thru it easier and heal better but when you get older these things linger more and sometimes never quite heal up the same. I missed or forgot where he admitted to not having surgery. Jeanie needs to adjust and throw top dollar at elite basketball minds/coaches for the Lakers - no more of this Luke/Ham shit. Even Vogel was better than this imo. Not by a mile or anything but still better imo. |
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Post by history2b on Mar 7, 2024 17:35:50 GMT -8
Just saw a stat that AD is 0-9 against Sabonis.
That is a major problem that he needs to fix asap. If Pau Gasol can adjust then Anthony can to and it’s a must.
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Post by history2b on Mar 7, 2024 23:22:02 GMT -8
I believe you that Lebron said that to a reporter but I also heard him say directly to the question during training camp that no he didn’t get surgery. Although if it’s the other wheel it doesn’t really matter. It’s just a matter of reality for a 21 year player who played deep into the playoffs most of those years. It’s a miracle he’s still able to do what he does now despite it all. Re: Jeanie… fat chance that happening. She’s riding the wave of women empowerment, the 1st NBA governor etc. I’m positive that she has an ego because of this and while I support women in positions of power there has to be the same accountability as men or it’s entitlement. She’ll likely never step down and certainly never hand back power to a man from her family. Yup doesn't really matter which foot in year 21 as both his tires at this point are running low on tread. A young buck can soldier thru it easier and heal better but when you get older these things linger more and sometimes never quite heal up the same. I missed or forgot where he admitted to not having surgery. Jeanie needs to adjust and throw top dollar at elite basketball minds/coaches for the Lakers - no more of this Luke/Ham shit. Even Vogel was better than this imo. Not by a mile or anything but still better imo. Not willing to split hairs in the scale of mediocre NBA coaches. His offense is so predictable trash, no matter what he does defensively, which was dated and reliant on peak AD and capable Dwight Howard in 2020 anyway, his teams struggle to play consistently elite. His offense was saved by a still best in game Lebron and all time great playmaking pg, Rajon Rondo. Once that was out of his toolset we played one of the stupidest slow motion crash seasons in history. IMO you don’t get to move on from that just because you moved on to KD Booker and Beal to run an offense. It struggles way more than any other team in the 4th. That’s pathetic for what he has offensively. A rich entrepreneur bought the team and thinks he’s doing the best he can by just throwing money around. Quite a few owners have tried that in the past in this league to no avail. Frank is way behind the times on what it takes to win in this league. Ham is for sure, 100% incapable of being that all important strategist that guides the team through adversity by actively competing against opposing coaches and not his own players. Stop calling it not giving effort when you yourself shit your pants on the sidelines and an opposing elite coach waxes that ass by busting your schemes while your tell your players to “just play harder than the other team,” something that if you actually knew, when other teams hit that gear offensively to out “effort” them is to misunderstand what it means to have a flow offense. 5 guys all playing in unison harmoniously is peak basketball. You don’t outdo peak basketball by shouting “PLAY HARDER.’ Bonehead, but based on what we all knew about Darvin coming in was he sat on Budenholzer’s bench for years and was on that 2021 squad that Giannis carried to a ring when the NBA fucked our team with the schedule. He was never a cerebral player, that’s for sure. He was PJ Tucker with bounce and half the defense and no shot. Wasn’t a ball handler or play maker. Truthfully he was a brotha who made it to the league cause he had the capable body that could fierce dunk for a brawny guy. How could such a player become an elite top of the world good strategist? Luke Walton had those capabilities as a player but failed at them as a coach due to being stuck in the past himself. I was screaming for Luke to play like the warriors and shoot more 3s circa 2017-19. He did the opposite saying we didn’t have the shooters. Fans parroted the same bullshit because fans know how to rah rah but not figure out how to win. Meanwhile the entire league shifted to shoot centric year after year each successive year since. Don’t hear fans saying we don’t have the Warriors shooters anymore either. |
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Post by chiefsdodgerslakers24 on Mar 8, 2024 0:18:44 GMT -8
Yup doesn't really matter which foot in year 21 as both his tires at this point are running low on tread. A young buck can soldier thru it easier and heal better but when you get older these things linger more and sometimes never quite heal up the same. I missed or forgot where he admitted to not having surgery. Jeanie needs to adjust and throw top dollar at elite basketball minds/coaches for the Lakers - no more of this Luke/Ham shit. Even Vogel was better than this imo. Not by a mile or anything but still better imo. Not willing to split hairs in the scale of mediocre NBA coaches. His offense is so predictable trash, no matter what he does defensively, which was dated and reliant on peak AD and capable Dwight Howard in 2020 anyway, his teams struggle to play consistently elite. His offense was saved by a still best in game Lebron and all time great half court pg, Rajon Rondo. Once that was out of his toolset we played one of the stupidest slow motion crash seasons in history. IMO you don’t get to move on from that just because you moved on to KD Booker and Beal to run an offense. It struggles way more than any other team in the 4th. That’s pathetic for what he offensively. A rich entrepreneur bought the team and thinks he’s doing the best he can by just throwing money around. Quite a few owners have tried that in the past in this league to no avail. Frank is way behind the times of what it takes to win in this league. Ham is for sure, 100% incapable of being that all important strategist that guides the team through adversity by actively competing against opposing coaches and not his own players. Stop calling it not giving effort when you yourself shit your pants on the sidelines while an opposing elite coach waxes that ass by busting your schemes while your tell your players to “just play harder than the other team,” something that if you actually knew, when other teams hit that gear offensively to out “effort” them is to misunderstand what it means to have a flow offense. 5 guys all playing in unison harmoniously is peak basketball. You don’t outdo peak basketball by shouting “PLAY HARDER.’ Bonehead, but based on what we all knew about Darvin coming in was he sat on Budenholzer’s bench for years and was on that 2021 squad that Giannis carried to a ring when the NBA fucked our team with the schedule. He was never a cerebral player, that’s for sure. He was PJ Tucker with bounce and half the defense and no shot. Wasn’t a ball handler or play maker. Truthfully he was a brotha who made it to the league cause he had the capable body that could fierce dunk for a brawny guy. How could such a player become an elite top of the world good strategist? Luke Walton had those capabilities as a player but failed at them as a coach due to being stuck in the past himself. I was screaming for Luke to play like the warriors and shoot more 3s. He did the opposite saying we didn’t have the shooters. Meanwhile the entire league shifted shoot every successive year. even with that fucked schedule, the Lakers were 100% going to beat Phoenix if AD doesn't pop his groin. and after they would've done that, they would've ran through the depleted Nuggets and Clippers. That could've easily been back to back titles. I'll never forgive Pelinka for gutting that team. |
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Post by lakeshow on Mar 8, 2024 15:53:31 GMT -8
As I predicted, Lebron is sitting out tonight. Bucks coming in hungry and playing well of kate. Giannis has owned AD.
Predicting another loss tonight.
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Post by lakeshow on Mar 8, 2024 21:40:00 GMT -8
As I predicted, Lebron is sitting out tonight. Bucks coming in hungry and playing well of kate. Giannis has owned AD. Predicting another loss tonight. Nice win, I stand corrected about tonight. D’Lo playing lights out basketball! |
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Post by history2b on Mar 8, 2024 22:09:13 GMT -8
As I predicted, Lebron is sitting out tonight. Bucks coming in hungry and playing well of kate. Giannis has owned AD. Predicting another loss tonight. Nice win, I stand corrected about tonight. D’Lo playing lights out basketball! We got players. Rui is a solid sub for Lebron. |
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Post by odogg on Mar 9, 2024 7:54:01 GMT -8
Not willing to split hairs in the scale of mediocre NBA coaches. His offense is so predictable trash, no matter what he does defensively, which was dated and reliant on peak AD and capable Dwight Howard in 2020 anyway, his teams struggle to play consistently elite. His offense was saved by a still best in game Lebron and all time great half court pg, Rajon Rondo. Once that was out of his toolset we played one of the stupidest slow motion crash seasons in history. IMO you don’t get to move on from that just because you moved on to KD Booker and Beal to run an offense. It struggles way more than any other team in the 4th. That’s pathetic for what he offensively. A rich entrepreneur bought the team and thinks he’s doing the best he can by just throwing money around. Quite a few owners have tried that in the past in this league to no avail. Frank is way behind the times of what it takes to win in this league. Ham is for sure, 100% incapable of being that all important strategist that guides the team through adversity by actively competing against opposing coaches and not his own players. Stop calling it not giving effort when you yourself shit your pants on the sidelines while an opposing elite coach waxes that ass by busting your schemes while your tell your players to “just play harder than the other team,” something that if you actually knew, when other teams hit that gear offensively to out “effort” them is to misunderstand what it means to have a flow offense. 5 guys all playing in unison harmoniously is peak basketball. You don’t outdo peak basketball by shouting “PLAY HARDER.’ Bonehead, but based on what we all knew about Darvin coming in was he sat on Budenholzer’s bench for years and was on that 2021 squad that Giannis carried to a ring when the NBA fucked our team with the schedule. He was never a cerebral player, that’s for sure. He was PJ Tucker with bounce and half the defense and no shot. Wasn’t a ball handler or play maker. Truthfully he was a brotha who made it to the league cause he had the capable body that could fierce dunk for a brawny guy. How could such a player become an elite top of the world good strategist? Luke Walton had those capabilities as a player but failed at them as a coach due to being stuck in the past himself. I was screaming for Luke to play like the warriors and shoot more 3s. He did the opposite saying we didn’t have the shooters. Meanwhile the entire league shifted shoot every successive year. even with that fucked schedule, the Lakers were 100% going to beat Phoenix if AD doesn't pop his groin. and after they would've done that, they would've ran through the depleted Nuggets and Clippers. That could've easily been back to back titles. I'll never forgive Pelinka for gutting that team. That trade gutting the team was mostly from LeGM, iirc. Rob was following orders. |
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Post by lakeshow on Mar 9, 2024 8:00:09 GMT -8
Nice win, I stand corrected about tonight. D’Lo playing lights out basketball! We got players. Rui is a solid sub for Lebron. Yes, we do. Have always believed that, I just don’t trust the coaching. And I thought coming in Milwaukee might want to send a message. We don’t win that game without D’Lo going off in the 4th quarter though. |
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Post by history2b on Mar 9, 2024 10:04:35 GMT -8
We got players. Rui is a solid sub for Lebron. Yes, we do. Have always believed that, I just don’t trust the coaching. And I thought coming in Milwaukee might want to send a message. We don’t win that game without D’Lo going off in the 4th quarter though. Yes but have to remember who is coaching the other side. Doc isn’t elite either, shits the bed too. Just like AD doesn’t like physical centers, Han doesn’t like tacticians. |
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Post by lakeshow on Mar 9, 2024 10:53:01 GMT -8
Yes, we do. Have always believed that, I just don’t trust the coaching. And I thought coming in Milwaukee might want to send a message. We don’t win that game without D’Lo going off in the 4th quarter though. Yes but have to remember who is coaching the other side. Doc isn’t elite either, shits the bed too. Just like AD doesn’t like physical centers, Han doesn’t like tacticians. That was the biggest miscalculation on my part—Doc Rivers |
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Post by lakeshow on Mar 9, 2024 14:07:41 GMT -8
Yup doesn't really matter which foot in year 21 as both his tires at this point are running low on tread. A young buck can soldier thru it easier and heal better but when you get older these things linger more and sometimes never quite heal up the same. I missed or forgot where he admitted to not having surgery. Jeanie needs to adjust and throw top dollar at elite basketball minds/coaches for the Lakers - no more of this Luke/Ham shit. Even Vogel was better than this imo. Not by a mile or anything but still better imo. Not willing to split hairs in the scale of mediocre NBA coaches. His offense is so predictable trash, no matter what he does defensively, which was dated and reliant on peak AD and capable Dwight Howard in 2020 anyway, his teams struggle to play consistently elite. His offense was saved by a still best in game Lebron and all time great playmaking pg, Rajon Rondo. Once that was out of his toolset we played one of the stupidest slow motion crash seasons in history. IMO you don’t get to move on from that just because you moved on to KD Booker and Beal to run an offense. It struggles way more than any other team in the 4th. That’s pathetic for what he has offensively. A rich entrepreneur bought the team and thinks he’s doing the best he can by just throwing money around. Quite a few owners have tried that in the past in this league to no avail. Frank is way behind the times on what it takes to win in this league. Ham is for sure, 100% incapable of being that all important strategist that guides the team through adversity by actively competing against opposing coaches and not his own players. Stop calling it not giving effort when you yourself shit your pants on the sidelines and an opposing elite coach waxes that ass by busting your schemes while your tell your players to “just play harder than the other team,” something that if you actually knew, when other teams hit that gear offensively to out “effort” them is to misunderstand what it means to have a flow offense. 5 guys all playing in unison harmoniously is peak basketball. You don’t outdo peak basketball by shouting “PLAY HARDER.’Bonehead, but based on what we all knew about Darvin coming in was he sat on Budenholzer’s bench for years and was on that 2021 squad that Giannis carried to a ring when the NBA fucked our team with the schedule. He was never a cerebral player, that’s for sure. He was PJ Tucker with bounce and half the defense and no shot. Wasn’t a ball handler or play maker. Truthfully he was a brotha who made it to the league cause he had the capable body that could fierce dunk for a brawny guy. How could such a player become an elite top of the world good strategist? Luke Walton had those capabilities as a player but failed at them as a coach due to being stuck in the past himself. I was screaming for Luke to play like the warriors and shoot more 3s circa 2017-19. He did the opposite saying we didn’t have the shooters. Fans parroted the same bullshit because fans know how to rah rah but not figure out how to win. Meanwhile the entire league shifted to shoot centric year after year each successive year since. Don’t hear fans saying we don’t have the Warriors shooters anymore either. 100% It's like telling an average chess player to "play harder!" against a Grand Master. |
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Post by shaolinfighter on Mar 11, 2024 6:33:09 GMT -8
Not willing to split hairs in the scale of mediocre NBA coaches. His offense is so predictable trash, no matter what he does defensively, which was dated and reliant on peak AD and capable Dwight Howard in 2020 anyway, his teams struggle to play consistently elite. His offense was saved by a still best in game Lebron and all time great half court pg, Rajon Rondo. Once that was out of his toolset we played one of the stupidest slow motion crash seasons in history. IMO you don’t get to move on from that just because you moved on to KD Booker and Beal to run an offense. It struggles way more than any other team in the 4th. That’s pathetic for what he offensively. A rich entrepreneur bought the team and thinks he’s doing the best he can by just throwing money around. Quite a few owners have tried that in the past in this league to no avail. Frank is way behind the times of what it takes to win in this league. Ham is for sure, 100% incapable of being that all important strategist that guides the team through adversity by actively competing against opposing coaches and not his own players. Stop calling it not giving effort when you yourself shit your pants on the sidelines while an opposing elite coach waxes that ass by busting your schemes while your tell your players to “just play harder than the other team,” something that if you actually knew, when other teams hit that gear offensively to out “effort” them is to misunderstand what it means to have a flow offense. 5 guys all playing in unison harmoniously is peak basketball. You don’t outdo peak basketball by shouting “PLAY HARDER.’ Bonehead, but based on what we all knew about Darvin coming in was he sat on Budenholzer’s bench for years and was on that 2021 squad that Giannis carried to a ring when the NBA fucked our team with the schedule. He was never a cerebral player, that’s for sure. He was PJ Tucker with bounce and half the defense and no shot. Wasn’t a ball handler or play maker. Truthfully he was a brotha who made it to the league cause he had the capable body that could fierce dunk for a brawny guy. How could such a player become an elite top of the world good strategist? Luke Walton had those capabilities as a player but failed at them as a coach due to being stuck in the past himself. I was screaming for Luke to play like the warriors and shoot more 3s. He did the opposite saying we didn’t have the shooters. Meanwhile the entire league shifted shoot every successive year. even with that fucked schedule, the Lakers were 100% going to beat Phoenix if AD doesn't pop his groin. and after they would've done that, they would've ran through the depleted Nuggets and Clippers. That could've easily been back to back titles. I'll never forgive Pelinka for gutting that team. Wasn't that also the season where Solomon Hill crashed into Lebrons ankle ? Lakers were cookin at the time and looked poised to repeat. Kinda fucked by the schedule too tho. Had like 1 month of rest after winning the title. Didn't get rewarded at all for going thru that mental and physical grind. |
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