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Post by TruthTella2 on Aug 20, 2012 14:16:25 GMT -8
All the facts support me. There's no egos in international play as it means less than the NBA and guys are almost too unselfish.
Hell 4 years ago Kobe decided to focus on defense instead of being an offensive focal point something he'd never do in the NBA. Guys are unselfish in international play and it doesn't matter who is coaching.
Has nothing to do with the NBA as the atmosphere is completely different than international play and even more than the dictatorship that is College sports.
Having a green rookie coach with no NBA experience is not a good idea for any team with title aspirations
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Post by history2b on Aug 20, 2012 15:36:40 GMT -8
All the facts support me. There's no egos in international play as it means less than the NBA and guys are almost too unselfish. Hell 4 years ago Kobe decided to focus on defense instead of being an offensive focal point something he'd never do in the NBA. Guys are unselfish in international play and it doesn't matter who is coaching. Has nothing to do with the NBA as the atmosphere is completely different than international play and even more than the dictatorship that is College sports. Having a green rookie coach with no NBA experience is not a good idea for any team with title aspirations Just because players come into the idea of playing unselfish doesn't mean that idea maintains nor that the team has a functioning unity. If that's the case why pay a coach? I chimp could stand there and say ok most talented guys with no egos (just for this tournament of course) just play and we'll win. Bullshit, doesn't work that way. Gotta take off the "I hate Krzyzewski" googles to see what he was able to do though tbh.
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Post by history2b on Aug 20, 2012 15:41:08 GMT -8
It was still someones job to devise the correct units, sub patterns, successfully playing to your strengths (in this case a lot of small ball, which by the way rarely wins but it did this year), getting players who aren't accustomed to fillings certain roles to do just that, ie play team defense.
Based on how I saw team USA play, I was impressed. So was Lebron, Kobe, etc. So was assistant Coach McMillan.
I don't love Duke, Coach K, etc. I simply recognize what the man did with the job he had. And he did an excellent job 3 tourneys in a row. That should be enough.
The "he had too much talent to fail" argument is a old, tired argument for a lot of coaches.
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Post by TruthTella2 on Aug 20, 2012 15:48:55 GMT -8
It was still someones job to devise the correct units, sub patterns, successfully playing to your strengths (in this case a lot of small ball, which by the way rarely wins but it did this year), getting players who aren't accustomed to fillings certain roles to do just that, ie play team defense. Based on how I saw team USA play, I was impressed. So was Lebron, Kobe, etc. So was assistant Coach McMillan. I don't love Duke, Coach K, etc. I simply recognize what the man did with the job he had. And he did an excellent job 3 tourneys in a row. That should be enough. The "he had too much talent to fail" argument is a old, tired argument for a lot of coaches. The team struggled numerous games and seemed unprepared until a player, usually LeBron, would rally them Small ball wasn't a strength. They got eaten alive inside the team just didn't have a decent big man as Chandler couldn't stay out of foul trouble and the team carried no post players. There's a reason Coaches don't get medals.
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Post by TruthTella2 on Aug 20, 2012 15:50:01 GMT -8
BTW what does Olympic "coaching" have to do with the NBA? Not similar at all
Address the real issue
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Post by history2b on Aug 21, 2012 12:16:28 GMT -8
Because it's basketball, lol
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Post by history2b on Aug 21, 2012 12:22:01 GMT -8
Small ball wasn't a strength but his best lineup of players for chemistry was a small lineup. It took crafty defensive schemes to not be totally exploited.
Moreover when the team didn't look "prepared" it's on Coach K but when they dominated it's on the talent? Lol. No. Can't have it both ways.
3 straight gold management of talent and egos while getting players to play the right way. Can't be disputed. You can come up with some wild tangent for every game, situation, etc. but after a while it looks trifle and silly.
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Post by TruthTella2 on Aug 21, 2012 12:28:54 GMT -8
When 1 player takes over it isn't coaching. High School and College is basketball. Nothing like the NBA though
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Post by lakerpanther on Aug 21, 2012 18:03:17 GMT -8
Really? You guys think Adelman sucks? I mean what he did for the Tpups was amazing,his offense was taylor made for the Lakers after Phil left IMHO.... I can only imagine how he would work with Nash, Howard and Gasol Lakers need a defensive presence and a non push over coach. Also what did he do for the Wolves offense besides have them score 3 less points a game and shoot worse from the field including 4% worse from 3? The twolves were seating in the 8th spot, until Rubio went down, thanks to Kobe
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Post by TruthTella2 on Aug 21, 2012 18:18:09 GMT -8
Lakers need a defensive presence and a non push over coach. Also what did he do for the Wolves offense besides have them score 3 less points a game and shoot worse from the field including 4% worse from 3? The twolves were seating in the 8th spot, until Rubio went down, thanks to Kobe You said he improved the offense. That team sucked on offense and their winning percentage with Rubio would have had them as the 10th seed instead of 12th Dumping the 35% shooting rubio might help an offense though
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Post by lakerpanther on Aug 22, 2012 14:34:32 GMT -8
Still way better than van gundy if he was really a good coach I'm sure he would have been back by now
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Post by TruthTella2 on Aug 22, 2012 14:43:28 GMT -8
JVG could be back coaching but he enjoys his time in the booth and would go back to coaching for a real team but he isn't going to sign up for Minny or some scrub team.
He can pick his spots but is a better defensive coach than Brown
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2012 20:35:47 GMT -8
Jim Buss made the decision so we will see if his ego keeps Mike Brown here or if logic rules the Day and Phil comes out of retirement. Honestly I think Brown will lean of the experience of his other coaches this season and gets this team to the finals and a ring
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