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Post by lakeshow on Oct 1, 2020 12:02:55 GMT -8
Yeah, point taken. Now that I think about it, I wouldn’t be surprised if that was Trump’s plan all along to wear down Biden. His intention was to troll. Period. That’s what works for him with his constituency. He did it last time with success and he’s doing it again now. No surprises whatsoever. Now I know it takes a leap of faith to correlate trolling on a huge political stage to the entire world with trolling on message boards, but imo the psychology works exactly the same. And the trolling always works with the bottom of society from a small to a large scale.
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Post by lakeshow on Oct 1, 2020 12:22:02 GMT -8
All I can say is I've never participated in this much political conversation on a sports messageboard before. I normally stay away from politics with people I don't know but it's evident by the length of this thread that this election will and the aftermath will test the will of Americans, the strength of the Constitution, and how much it has affected sports already.
It's a breath of fresh air seeing you guys intelligently discuss this on this board because it allows me to get off some steam when I can't openly talk about this stuff at work. With as many posters as we have I'm sure there has to be somebody that's a Trump supporter. Not that I think they would want to get into this thread because it's obvious where we stand on the issue and not to turn this into a political messageboard, but I sure would like to hear a logical and coherent argument from somebody on the other side why they support Trump. I said this back on Feb.17, 2017, not far into Trump's term. Boy, was this accurate. And I'm not saying that to prop myself up at all. But I just went through some of these old posts since 2016 and this one really resonated.
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Post by history2b on Oct 1, 2020 18:45:36 GMT -8
All I can say is I've never participated in this much political conversation on a sports messageboard before. I normally stay away from politics with people I don't know but it's evident by the length of this thread that this election will and the aftermath will test the will of Americans, the strength of the Constitution, and how much it has affected sports already.
It's a breath of fresh air seeing you guys intelligently discuss this on this board because it allows me to get off some steam when I can't openly talk about this stuff at work. With as many posters as we have I'm sure there has to be somebody that's a Trump supporter. Not that I think they would want to get into this thread because it's obvious where we stand on the issue and not to turn this into a political messageboard, but I sure would like to hear a logical and coherent argument from somebody on the other side why they support Trump. I said this back on Feb.17, 2017, not far into Trump's term. Boy, was this accurate. And I'm not saying that to prop myself up at all. But I just went through some of these old posts since 2016 and this one really resonated. Not to single brother Red out because I know there were a handful of other posters who are Trumpers, but I can’t help but think that they all bailed when shit really hit the fan. The economic con games caught up with Trump, having no health care plan whatsoever, eliminating the US’s internal pandemic response team and programs studying pathogen based diseases in China specifically, all to repeatedly point to the stock market as if that and that alone was the barometer for a strong economy and a healthy nation. It’s not and anyone who thinks it is an ignorant fool. Having done all of that, once the pandemic struck his house of cards came crumbling down. Compounding that and his consequential slow reacting shutdown, economic anxieties rose to the surface. Sustained police state brutality may have been the spark but the anxieties that had been brewing beneath the surface were very real and volatile. Because Trump is a dumbfuck con artist he searched for scapegoats. Some cuckservatives bought, others, in some anecdotal experiences finally had skepticism of his antics. All that said, his stronghold on his manipulation of large swaths of society is at risk now because of his pitifully poor responses as a leader is highly evident and now a Constitutional crisis looms. When a leader refuses to relinquish power it is a coup, something I called his movement in 2016. Imo the reason right wingers left this forum is that they knew we were right about him and they had too much pride to admit it and face reality.
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Post by samadams10 on Oct 1, 2020 21:33:59 GMT -8
45 has Covid-19
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Post by history2b on Oct 1, 2020 23:10:04 GMT -8
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Post by samadams10 on Oct 2, 2020 7:24:42 GMT -8
Significant risk that this will be used as a ploy to downplay the virus with a miracle cure coming. To prove it's all a hoax.
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Post by lakeshow on Oct 2, 2020 8:06:44 GMT -8
I said this back on Feb.17, 2017, not far into Trump's term. Boy, was this accurate. And I'm not saying that to prop myself up at all. But I just went through some of these old posts since 2016 and this one really resonated. Not to single brother Red out because I know there were a handful of other posters who are Trumpers, but I can’t help but think that they all bailed when shit really hit the fan. The economic con games caught up with Trump, having no health care plan whatsoever, eliminating the US’s internal pandemic response team and programs studying pathogen based diseases in China specifically, all to repeatedly point to the stock market as if that and that alone was the barometer for a strong economy and a healthy nation. It’s not and anyone who thinks it is an ignorant fool. Having done all of that, once the pandemic struck his house of cards came crumbling down. Compounding that and his consequential slow reacting shutdown, economic anxieties rose to the surface. Sustained police state brutality may have been the spark but the anxieties that had been brewing beneath the surface were very real and volatile. Because Trump is a dumbfuck con artist he searched for scapegoats. Some cuckservatives bought, others, in some anecdotal experiences finally had skepticism of his antics. All that said, his stronghold on his manipulation of large swaths of society is at risk now because of his pitifully poor responses as a leader is highly evident and now a Constitutional crisis looms. When a leader refuses to relinquish power it is a coup, something I called his movement in 2016. Imo the reason right wingers left this forum is that they knew we were right about him and they had too much pride to admit it and face reality. I don't think Red was a Trump supporter per se, he just didn't take his election seriously and thought he was just like every other politician.
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Post by lakeshow on Oct 2, 2020 8:10:32 GMT -8
Significant risk that this will be used as a ploy to downplay the virus with a miracle cure coming. To prove it's all a hoax. There's no way he can minimize this now if he develops serious symptoms.
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Post by history2b on Oct 2, 2020 9:25:09 GMT -8
Not to single brother Red out because I know there were a handful of other posters who are Trumpers, but I can’t help but think that they all bailed when shit really hit the fan. The economic con games caught up with Trump, having no health care plan whatsoever, eliminating the US’s internal pandemic response team and programs studying pathogen based diseases in China specifically, all to repeatedly point to the stock market as if that and that alone was the barometer for a strong economy and a healthy nation. It’s not and anyone who thinks it is an ignorant fool. Having done all of that, once the pandemic struck his house of cards came crumbling down. Compounding that and his consequential slow reacting shutdown, economic anxieties rose to the surface. Sustained police state brutality may have been the spark but the anxieties that had been brewing beneath the surface were very real and volatile. Because Trump is a dumbfuck con artist he searched for scapegoats. Some cuckservatives bought, others, in some anecdotal experiences finally had skepticism of his antics. All that said, his stronghold on his manipulation of large swaths of society is at risk now because of his pitifully poor responses as a leader is highly evident and now a Constitutional crisis looms. When a leader refuses to relinquish power it is a coup, something I called his movement in 2016. Imo the reason right wingers left this forum is that they knew we were right about him and they had too much pride to admit it and face reality. I don't think Red was a Trump supporter per se, he just didn't take his election seriously and thought he was just like every other politician. No brother, I'm positive of it. He hid it because he didn't want confrontation.
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Post by lakeshow on Oct 2, 2020 13:08:35 GMT -8
I don't think Red was a Trump supporter per se, he just didn't take his election seriously and thought he was just like every other politician. No brother, I'm positive of it. He hid it because he didn't want confrontation. That or extremely naive.
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Post by history2b on Oct 2, 2020 15:50:02 GMT -8
No brother, I'm positive of it. He hid it because he didn't want confrontation. That or extremely naive. I think anyone who fell for Trump is naive at best. And I don’t just mean supporters but also those who tried to pretend the United States was some kind of infallible system of perfect that a tyrant couldn’t exploit. Go back and read what he wrote when he left. He expected us (me) to call him a “piece of shit.” I wouldn’t do that because I genuinely genuinely do not think he is. Red is a good dude, such a good spirit, wonderful sense of humor and he is missed. But even good people can be manipulated, which is all I think is taking place under the current Republican Party and Trump. It’s cellophane thin and transparent from this vantage point. When Red left he specifically mentioned his family’s shop being vandalized by liberals. The majority of black Americans are Democrats but there are plenty of Jason Whitlocks to go around too.
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Post by samadams10 on Oct 2, 2020 16:54:57 GMT -8
Significant risk that this will be used as a ploy to downplay the virus with a miracle cure coming. To prove it's all a hoax. There's no way he can minimize this now if he develops serious symptoms. They'll spin anything into anything and cultists follow
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Post by wireman62ac on Oct 6, 2020 4:52:26 GMT -8
We got Russians here in the country spraying stupid anti-gay graffiti. Honk honk. Beep beep. In this election cyclce I have driven all across safe red states Oklahoma, Arkansas and Indiana. People are not wearing MAGA hats. They don't have Trump signs in their yards. Nor do they have Trump bumper stickers on their cars. People are simply too embarrassed.
Where I did see the Trump signs was Missouri. Still no hats or bumper stickers. But plenty of signs which gave me a good laugh.
According to US Census Bureau estimates, in year 2026, white males will no longer be a majority in the United States. They will be just another race in the mix. And in 2026 most of the Trump 2016 voters will be dead from old age, heart disease, cancer, and other causes.
So where will that leave us in 2026? I propose black and latinx people should take an interest in farming. Many schools have a 4H program. Get involved. Rural areas need to become more diverse. Otherwise our food could be held hostage by a bunch of old, out of touch white guys
Rural areas and counties with division 2 schools typically have lower rents and a much lower cost of living overall. People of color should check out home prices in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee. Or even Idaho, Wyoming, South Dakota and North Dakota. Secondary counties in these states are still affordable in 2020 compared to prices world wide.
Finally, the next time you see a worker of diverse background, be very proud no matter the work. They are making a name for themself and a better life
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Post by samadams10 on Oct 6, 2020 6:37:03 GMT -8
Significant risk that this will be used as a ploy to downplay the virus with a miracle cure coming. To prove it's all a hoax. There's no way he can minimize this now if he develops serious symptoms. Just as predicted. Coming out as a warrior hero who stood up to and beat Covid.
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Post by lakeshow on Oct 6, 2020 8:55:55 GMT -8
There's no way he can minimize this now if he develops serious symptoms. Just as predicted. Coming out as a warrior hero who stood up to and beat Covid. His reign is coming to an end on Nov.3 Sammy. Book it.
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Post by history2b on Oct 6, 2020 9:25:38 GMT -8
Just as predicted. Coming out as a warrior hero who stood up to and beat Covid. His reign is coming to an end on Nov.3 Sammy. Book it. Told ya he wouldn’t be able to bullshit his way through a pandemic brother. A lot has happened since March but I thought then that this would be the downfall of his empire of illusion. The financial system crashes, mass unemployment, hundreds of thousands have died, mass protests not seen in the 1960s, and worst of all, the Republican Party had no plan whatsoever to deal with any of this. Their response was just “get back to work” while giving trillions to bankers, executives and other private profiteers. Now with Trump catching the Democratic hoax, err, Chinese hoax, err Covid 19, proved that no one is immune and even with all the resources at your command it is unavoidable without respecting the science of known transmission. Some are bothered by his spectacle of his grandstanding, like Sammy pointed out about his predictable playing down of the virus after his hospital release. The key with Trump is to always look ahead, NOT what he is doing or saying at the moment. And he’s not in the clear by any means with his health and I’m expecting his complications to return within the next week or so. Of course, that is both wishful thinking and guesswork in my part. He is receiving monarch like treatment which bodes well for his chances. But knowing he’s jacked up on steroids and antigens currently, we still have to see how his body responds to that virus multiplying in his sloth like body. I still like the virus’s chances
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Post by lakeshow on Oct 6, 2020 10:09:55 GMT -8
His reign is coming to an end on Nov.3 Sammy. Book it. Told ya he wouldn’t be able to bullshit his way through a pandemic brother. A lot has happened since March but I thought then that this would be the downfall of his empire of illusion. The financial system crashes, mass unemployment, hundreds of thousands have died, mass protests not seen in the 1960s, and worst of all, the Republican Party had no plan whatsoever to deal with any of this. Their response was just “get back to work” while giving trillions to bankers, executives and other private profiteers. Now with Trump catching the Democratic hoax, err, Chinese hoax, err Covid 19, proved that no one is immune and even with all the resources at your command it is unavoidable without respecting the science of known transmission. Some are bothered by his spectacle of his grandstanding, like Sammy pointed out about his predictable playing down of the virus after his hospital release. The key with Trump is to always look ahead, NOT what he is doing or saying at the moment. And he’s not in the clear by any means with his health and I’m expecting his complications to return within the next week or so. Of course, that is both wishful thinking and guesswork in my part. He is receiving monarch like treatment which bodes well for his chances. But knowing he’s jacked up on steroids and antigens currently, we still have to see how his body responds to that virus multiplying in his sloth like body. I still like the virus’s chances Yeah he's receiving the best treatment on the planet. The virus may have some long-term effects on him, but I think he's going to weather that storm if the man is already back at the White House walking around without a mask and infecting everybody in Washington. I remember you saying Biden didn't have a chance though....lol. But in fairness to you, I think you said that prior to the pandemic after he beat Sanders in the primaries. I still don't put a whole lot of stock in the polls, but the difference this time is that he has a record he can't run from and now even Republicans know he can't win. They just can't come out and say it. What matters the most are the polls in the swing states. Nationwide polls don't mean a thing in the electoral college.
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Post by samadams10 on Oct 6, 2020 11:33:38 GMT -8
Just as predicted. Coming out as a warrior hero who stood up to and beat Covid. His reign is coming to an end on Nov.3 Sammy. Book it. I have full trust in your predictions T. I hope you're right again.
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Post by history2b on Oct 6, 2020 11:43:17 GMT -8
Told ya he wouldn’t be able to bullshit his way through a pandemic brother. A lot has happened since March but I thought then that this would be the downfall of his empire of illusion. The financial system crashes, mass unemployment, hundreds of thousands have died, mass protests not seen in the 1960s, and worst of all, the Republican Party had no plan whatsoever to deal with any of this. Their response was just “get back to work” while giving trillions to bankers, executives and other private profiteers. Now with Trump catching the Democratic hoax, err, Chinese hoax, err Covid 19, proved that no one is immune and even with all the resources at your command it is unavoidable without respecting the science of known transmission. Some are bothered by his spectacle of his grandstanding, like Sammy pointed out about his predictable playing down of the virus after his hospital release. The key with Trump is to always look ahead, NOT what he is doing or saying at the moment. And he’s not in the clear by any means with his health and I’m expecting his complications to return within the next week or so. Of course, that is both wishful thinking and guesswork in my part. He is receiving monarch like treatment which bodes well for his chances. But knowing he’s jacked up on steroids and antigens currently, we still have to see how his body responds to that virus multiplying in his sloth like body. I still like the virus’s chances Yeah he's receiving the best treatment on the planet. The virus may have some long-term effects on him, but I think he's going to weather that storm if the man is already back at the White House walking around without a mask and infecting everybody in Washington. I remember you saying Biden didn't have a chance though....lol. But in fairness to you, I think you said that prior to the pandemic after he beat Sanders in the primaries. I still don't put a whole lot of stock in the polls, but the difference this time is that he has a record he can't run from and now even Republicans know he can't win. They just can't come out and say it. What matters the most are the polls in the swing states. Nationwide polls don't mean a thing in the electoral college. Correct. I said Biden was going to lose to Trump but before Covid had officially hit the US. That was the game changer. Take away the pandemic, lockdown, which caused the financial crash and mass unemployment and Trump still beats Biden imo, and by a greater margin than he did Clinton. Part of that reason is Republican cheating strategies.
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Post by history2b on Oct 6, 2020 12:23:35 GMT -8
Get ready for another stock market nose dive tomorrow. Trump tweeted that he’s closing down negotiating a stimulus deal with Democrats until after the election. It was only minutes before trading closed, and even just within those minutes the dow dropped hundreds of points.
Tomorrow seems ripe for another 1000+ point drop.
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