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Post by samadams10 on Aug 20, 2017 19:51:16 GMT -8
Fake news=Any kind of criticism (even if it's true) I (Trump) don't like. Fake news! If It is not flattering it's fake. Everyone can lie all they want but anything media says that's not favorable is fake news. Fact checked matters are fake news.
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Post by shopson67 on Aug 23, 2017 8:36:34 GMT -8
I would say that the Democrats need to take a stand other than just being in opposition to Trump. They know how to stand against Trump, but to your point, they need to better articulate the issues they stand on and how they are going to sell those ideas to people living particularly in the Rust Belt states. The goal for Democrats isn't to win those hardcore Trump supporters who will support him no matter what, it's to win those Trump voters who previously voted for Obama in '08 and '12. Sad part is dems were the party of the working man. Unions etc. How does a out of touch billionaire speak for them? Dems need to regroup in a big way and need another charismatic leader like O. Nobody's stepping up to the plate yet. Gavin Newsom some say has the potential but I worry about a San Francisco liberal getting through to these folks. I like Gavin from what I've seen on Bill Maher. I also like Elizabeth Warren, but a younger candidate is probably a better idea. As horrible as it sounds, the Dems probably need a white male candidate. Obama doesn't get any respect for what he accomplished largely due to racism, then the Dems came with Hillary, which really tested the voters. She has never been popular with the general masses.
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Post by shopson67 on Aug 23, 2017 8:37:32 GMT -8
Fake news=Any kind of criticism (even if it's true) I (Trump) don't like. Fake news! If It is not flattering it's fake. Everyone can lie all they want but anything media says that's not favorable is fake news. Fact checked matters are fake news. It's a standard move for tyrants to discredit the media.
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 23, 2017 8:59:52 GMT -8
Sad part is dems were the party of the working man. Unions etc. How does a out of touch billionaire speak for them? Dems need to regroup in a big way and need another charismatic leader like O. Nobody's stepping up to the plate yet. Gavin Newsom some say has the potential but I worry about a San Francisco liberal getting through to these folks. I like Gavin from what I've seen on Bill Maher. I also like Elizabeth Warren, but a younger candidate is probably a better idea. As horrible as it sounds, the Dems probably need a white male candidate. Obama doesn't get any respect for what he accomplished largely due to racism, then the Dems came with Hillary, which really tested the voters. She has never been popular with the general masses. Did you see how maher was railing on him for downplaying russia and how dems aren't nasty enough? I'm with Gavin on this. If you wrestle with pigs in the mud guess who wins. I think youre right. Need a charismatic white make in the dem ticket. Hillary was too flawed a candidate with all the baggage. McAuliffe from VA is likely running. Don't know much about him.
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 23, 2017 9:00:16 GMT -8
Fake news! If It is not flattering it's fake. Everyone can lie all they want but anything media says that's not favorable is fake news. Fact checked matters are fake news. It's a standard move for tyrants to discredit the media. And the facts
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Post by shopson67 on Aug 25, 2017 8:58:38 GMT -8
Did you see how maher was railing on him for downplaying russia and how dems aren't nasty enough? I'm with Gavin on this. If you wrestle with pigs in the mud guess who wins. To a degree. The dems need to get a lot tougher and actually hold the repubs accountable for their actions though. Too often the dems try to be the "better man" and look the other way at transgressions, whereas the repubs will take the smallest dem error, repeat it ad nauseum, and turn it into a major point in the election. How else can you explain the general public having more trust in Trump the used car salesman than Hillary? The repubs are always on message, and that message is as simple and base as possible.
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 25, 2017 13:27:36 GMT -8
Did you see how maher was railing on him for downplaying russia and how dems aren't nasty enough? I'm with Gavin on this. If you wrestle with pigs in the mud guess who wins. To a degree. The dems need to get a lot tougher and actually hold the repubs accountable for their actions though. Too often the dems try to be the "better man" and look the other way at transgressions, whereas the repubs will take the smallest dem error, repeat it ad nauseum, and turn it into a major point in the election. How else can you explain the general public having more trust in Trump the used car salesman than Hillary? The repubs are always on message, and that message is as simple and base as possible. Completely agree
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Post by hackashaq on Aug 25, 2017 18:15:25 GMT -8
To a degree. The dems need to get a lot tougher and actually hold the repubs accountable for their actions though. Too often the dems try to be the "better man" and look the other way at transgressions, whereas the repubs will take the smallest dem error, repeat it ad nauseum, and turn it into a major point in the election. How else can you explain the general public having more trust in Trump the used car salesman than Hillary? The repubs are always on message, and that message is as simple and base as possible. Completely agree Possibly the most effective Democrat the modern US ever had was a slick Texas Senator and racist/sexist politician named Lyndon B. Johnson. He passed almost every legislative initiative Kennedy advertised, but Johnson had that old boy know how to get things done, using all means necessary. He wasn't a saint, but he got things done that ultimately still help people and live on today. Too bad, he had a hard-on for an unwinnable war. Now, Dems are pansies and getting their butts kicked cause they can't play that game. I'm not saying Dems have to be assholes, but they need a little asshole in them if they want to fight on even terms.
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 25, 2017 18:30:18 GMT -8
Possibly the most effective Democrat the modern US ever had was a slick Texas Senator and racist/sexist politician named Lyndon B. Johnson. He passed almost every legislative initiative Kennedy advertised, but Johnson had that old boy know how to get things done, using all means necessary. He wasn't a saint, but he got things done that ultimately still help people and live on today. Too bad, he had a hard-on for an unwinnable war. Now, Dems are pansies and getting their butts kicked cause they can't play that game. I'm not saying Dems have to be assholes, but they need a little asshole in them if they want to fight on even terms. Yep capitalize on the bait repubs have been throwing. In fighting, unhinged leadership and a whole bunch of shit being handed to them on a platter. Dems need a leadership overhaul but these career politicians refuse to relinquish their power. Enough of pelosi and schumer.
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Post by lakeshow on Aug 25, 2017 18:35:17 GMT -8
Possibly the most effective Democrat the modern US ever had was a slick Texas Senator and racist/sexist politician named Lyndon B. Johnson. He passed almost every legislative initiative Kennedy advertised, but Johnson had that old boy know how to get things done, using all means necessary. He wasn't a saint, but he got things done that ultimately still help people and live on today. Too bad, he had a hard-on for an unwinnable war. Now, Dems are pansies and getting their butts kicked cause they can't play that game. I'm not saying Dems have to be assholes, but they need a little asshole in them if they want to fight on even terms. Yep capitalize on the bait repubs have been throwing. In fighting, unhinged leadership and a whole bunch of shit being handed to them on a platter. Dems need a leadership overhaul but these career politicians refuse to relinquish their power. Enough of pelosi and schumer. Yup. Pelosi for sure has to go. Old, decrepid, and not effective in rallying up the Democratic base.
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 25, 2017 19:03:17 GMT -8
Yep capitalize on the bait repubs have been throwing. In fighting, unhinged leadership and a whole bunch of shit being handed to them on a platter. Dems need a leadership overhaul but these career politicians refuse to relinquish their power. Enough of pelosi and schumer. Yup. Pelosi for sure has to go. Old, decrepid, and not effective in rallying up the Democratic base. Yea and what a bad choice in Hillary. I have no doubt sanders would've been president. Too late for him now. Need someone who can energize the base and get the independents interested. The progressive agenda is more saleable imo but there's no one to deliver it.
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Post by hackashaq on Aug 26, 2017 18:06:46 GMT -8
Next problem...he just pardoned that racist cop Arapio(so?) from a federal conviction for essentially targeting Latino people. Essentially a civil rights claim.
The Neo-Nazis are having a field day.
He's probably going to use the same powers to pardon all his scumbag conspirators that sold us out to the Russians.
The only option at this point is to impeach him and take his presidential powers away from him before any pardon.
Interestingly enough, if he does pardon his conspirators, they have no reason to keep things secret, or even take the 5th. Nothing they say will put them in jail, except a lie....which is obstruction and not the same as the underlying crime. They can be re-charged.
Remember....it's never the crime. It's the cover up that causes the problems.
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Post by lakeshow on Aug 28, 2017 8:43:20 GMT -8
Could be wrong but Rex Tillerson may be the most normal appointment by this president.......He seems to stay away from saying stupid stuff and was clearly trying to separate himself from Trump without directly saying so when interviewed by Chris Wallace.
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Post by shopson67 on Aug 28, 2017 8:45:19 GMT -8
Next problem...he just pardoned that racist cop Arapio(so?) from a federal conviction for essentially targeting Latino people. Essentially a civil rights claim. The Neo-Nazis are having a field day. He's probably going to use the same powers to pardon all his scumbag conspirators that sold us out to the Russians. The only option at this point is to impeach him and take his presidential powers away from him before any pardon. Interestingly enough, if he does pardon his conspirators, they have no reason to keep things secret, or even take the 5th. Nothing they say will put them in jail, except a lie....which is obstruction and not the same as the underlying crime. They can be re-charged. Remember....it's never the crime. It's the cover up that causes the problems. Trump reportedly asked if he could pardon himself. Seems like damning evidence on it's own, lol.
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Post by shaolinfighter on Aug 28, 2017 9:04:50 GMT -8
Could see Bob Iger or Dwayne The Rock Johnson run for Pres. It surely won't be Shillary again
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 28, 2017 11:13:03 GMT -8
Could be wrong but Rex Tillerson may be the most normal appointment by this president.......He seems to stay away from saying stupid stuff and was clearly trying to separate himself from Trump without directly saying so when interviewed by Chris Wallace. More qualified overall too. Running Exxon is like running a small country unlike running a private real estate firm.
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Post by shopson67 on Aug 30, 2017 8:48:52 GMT -8
Could be wrong but Rex Tillerson may be the most normal appointment by this president.......He seems to stay away from saying stupid stuff and was clearly trying to separate himself from Trump without directly saying so when interviewed by Chris Wallace. Maybe by this president, but that's low praise. Bringing an Exxon guy in is essentially empowering lobbyists. Which actually fits with most of Trump's appointees.
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Post by samadams10 on Sept 23, 2017 11:57:23 GMT -8
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin used a costly government jet to make the short journey from New York City to Washington D.C. following a meeting in Trump Tower last month, a flight that is now under review by department investigators, along with at least two other requests for government travel involving the secretary, multiple officials told ABC News.
Some swamp draining! Dude worth 300 million needs taxpayer funded private jet travel.
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Post by hackashaq on Sept 23, 2017 12:08:52 GMT -8
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin used a costly government jet to make the short journey from New York City to Washington D.C. following a meeting in Trump Tower last month, a flight that is now under review by department investigators, along with at least two other requests for government travel involving the secretary, multiple officials told ABC News. Some swamp draining! Dude worth 300 million needs taxpayer funded private jet travel. Health and Human Services Secretary Price is also under investigation for using government planes for high cost for personal reasons. They are the swamp. Trump just opened the flood gates and destroyed the flood control systems.
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Post by lakeshow on Sept 25, 2017 19:22:36 GMT -8
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