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Post by lakeshow on Oct 23, 2019 11:40:34 GMT -8
Trump backed down from hosting G7. Apparently, someone hit his hands with a ruler lol. The WH advisors and likely Republican Senate leaders advised him to let that go being that the impeachment inquiry has the potential to invoke the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution. You know, where the President is bound by law to disassociate his private business from the office of the presidency? Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 Of course Trump doesn't know or would even care about it though. I'm convinced he's definitely going to be impeached by the House. Dems were smart to hold off on impeachment until the Ukraine stuff imo.
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Post by history2b on Oct 23, 2019 12:33:38 GMT -8
The WH advisors and likely Republican Senate leaders advised him to let that go being that the impeachment inquiry has the potential to invoke the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution. You know, where the President is bound by law to disassociate his private business from the office of the presidency? Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 Of course Trump doesn't know or would even care about it though. I'm convinced he's definitely going to be impeached by the House. Dems were smart to hold off on impeachment until the Ukraine stuff imo. I’m positive he knows about it but just doesn’t care because the Senate won’t apply the law to their own party. That is the bigger unaddressed issue about how government functions. In simplest terms, it’s operating like a mafia crime syndicate.
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Post by hackashaq on Oct 24, 2019 12:26:02 GMT -8
You know what really pissed me off yesterday?
Those idiot House Republicans bum rushing the room where the House Impeachment Committee was interviewing a subpoenaed witness.
What is this behavior from our elected representatives? Republicans are on that committee already. They were in the witness chamber. They have the ability to cross examine. What is their beef? Is this some kind of third world legislative organization?
Yes, this was all a stunt to get support from the crazies that support Trump, but it sets such a bad precedent. You have people buying guns threatening to start civil war if Trump gets impeached. He’s already created an environment so toxic and has validated the twisted views and actions of that lunatic fringe that I’m afraid they will start a war claiming the election results were false if Trump loses.
This is scary stuff.
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Post by hackashaq on Oct 24, 2019 12:26:12 GMT -8
You know what really pissed me off yesterday?
Those idiot House Republicans bum rushing the room where the House Impeachment Committee was interviewing a subpoenaed witness.
What is this behavior from our elected representatives? Republicans are on that committee already. They were in the witness chamber. They have the ability to cross examine. What is their beef? Is this some kind of third world legislative organization?
Yes, this was all a stunt to get support from the crazies that support Trump, but it sets such a bad precedent. You have people buying guns threatening to start civil war if Trump gets impeached. He’s already created an environment so toxic and has validated the twisted views and actions of that lunatic fringe that I’m afraid they will start a war claiming the election results were false if Trump loses.
This is scary stuff.
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Post by lakeshow on Oct 25, 2019 6:17:37 GMT -8
Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 Of course Trump doesn't know or would even care about it though. I'm convinced he's definitely going to be impeached by the House. Dems were smart to hold off on impeachment until the Ukraine stuff imo. I’m positive he knows about it but just doesn’t care because the Senate won’t apply the law to their own party. That is the bigger unaddressed issue about how government functions. In simplest terms, it’s operating like a mafia crime syndicate. That's a good point, but remember this is the same guy who said anyone who burns the American flag should be put in jail or lose citizenship--clearly demonstrating he knows nothing about the 1st Amendment. Could he have known better? Possibly, but I just don't think this guy knows or understands the basic tenets of the Constitution, American history, and how democracy works. This is the most ignorant, unfit, and misguided person Americans have ever put in the White House. And that's a reflection on most of his followers and supporters as well.
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Post by shopson67 on Nov 8, 2019 9:48:37 GMT -8
I’m positive he knows about it but just doesn’t care because the Senate won’t apply the law to their own party. That is the bigger unaddressed issue about how government functions. In simplest terms, it’s operating like a mafia crime syndicate. That's a good point, but remember this is the same guy who said anyone who burns the American flag should be put in jail or lose citizenship--clearly demonstrating he knows nothing about the 1st Amendment. Could he have known better? Possibly, but I just don't think this guy knows or understands the basic tenets of the Constitution, American history, and how democracy works. This is the most ignorant, unfit, and misguided person Americans have ever put in the White House. And that's a reflection on most of his followers and supporters as well. The people wanted a business-minded person instead of a politician. What they got was a used car salesman and swindler.
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Post by lakeshow on Nov 12, 2019 21:36:51 GMT -8
November 8th marked the 3rd anniversary of the election.....it's felt like a lifetime and has been exhausting.
Tomorrow starts the public hearings of the Impeachment testimonies.
We'll see how this plays out, but it's time for this man to be stopped.
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Post by history2b on Nov 12, 2019 22:16:35 GMT -8
November 8th marked the 3rd anniversary of the election.....it's felt like a lifetime and has been exhausting. Tomorrow starts the public hearings of the Impeachment testimonies. We'll see how this plays out, but it's time for this man to be stopped. It’s well past that time as he is a latent criminal masquerading as a demagogue. But the institutions have to function according to laws not party controlled mafias. The party has completely abandoned parliamentary politics; they’ll make a mountain out of a molehill (Benghazi) when they have control of oversight committees and they’ll completely turn a blind eye on the hundreds and hundreds of active offenses Trump commits now. Yes 100s. That abandonment of how parliamentary government is supposed to work is unabashedly being paraded through the bloodline of this country’s soul right now. Fuck anyone who’s living a con man’s ideological bubble of mind control, they don’t deserve to be listened to any more than any other delusional cult member schmuck. Obama is a Centrist, that means his political governance is a policy of compromise. Can anyone on the planet, think tanks, political commentary hacks make a sound argument as to how Trump and the Republican Party are operating in good faith respectful compromise? A system of checks and balances based on honorable values? Of course not. Because this is a government takeover, a free for all for lawlessness and public manipulation. It is the very essence of what hypocrite Conservatives claim to fear the most; big government. Trump is enormous govenment. He’s actively redirecting public funds, ie what working people pay and he avoids, and using it for his own gain all across the map. But so long as you have a bunch unevolved chimp brained Confederate retards in rural America too stupid to understand how they’re being conned, he seems to have a license to abuse power. The hearings may start tomorrow but the Republicans control the senate and they will unabashedly ignore the very principles they treat as Biblical doctrine and pretend they see no crime. The Dems have to start convincing that ever so fickle public base of hyper consumers of his crimes so that they in turn put the Senators up for reelection in the hot seat. If they are unsuccessful at that, it’s all null and void.
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Post by Fanofish on Nov 12, 2019 22:28:27 GMT -8
That's a good point, but remember this is the same guy who said anyone who burns the American flag should be put in jail or lose citizenship--clearly demonstrating he knows nothing about the 1st Amendment. Could he have known better? Possibly, but I just don't think this guy knows or understands the basic tenets of the Constitution, American history, and how democracy works. This is the most ignorant, unfit, and misguided person Americans have ever put in the White House. And that's a reflection on most of his followers and supporters as well. The people wanted a business-minded person instead of a politician. What they got was a used car salesman and swindler. ...or Tony Soprano
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Post by Fanofish on Nov 12, 2019 22:29:56 GMT -8
November 8th marked the 3rd anniversary of the election.....it's felt like a lifetime and has been exhausting. Tomorrow starts the public hearings of the Impeachment testimonies. We'll see how this plays out, but it's time for this man to be stopped. It’s well past that time as he is a latent criminal masquerading as a demagogue. But the institutions have to function according to laws not party controlled mafias. The party has completely abandoned parliamentary politics; they’ll make a mountain out of a molehill (Benghazi) when they have control of oversight committees and they’ll completely turn a blind eye on the hundreds and hundreds of active offenses Trump commits now. Yes 100s. That abandonment of how parliamentary government is supposed to work is unabashedly being paraded through the bloodline of this country’s soul right now. Fuck anyone who’s living a con man’s ideological bubble of mind control, they don’t deserve to be listened to any more than any other delusional cult member schmuck. Obama is a Centrist, that means his political governance is a policy of compromise. Can anyone on the planet, think tanks, political commentary hacks make a sound argument as to how Trump and the Republican Party are operating in good faith respectful compromise? A system of checks and balances based on honorable values? Of course not. Because this is a government takeover, a free for all for lawlessness and public manipulation. It is the very essence of what hypocrite Conservatives claim to fear the most; big government. Trump is enormous govenment. He’s actively redirecting public funds, ie what working people pay and he avoids, and using it for his own gain all across the map. But so long as you have a bunch unevolved chimp brained Confederate retards in rural America too stupid to understand how they’re being conned, he seems to have a license to abuse power. The hearings may start tomorrow but the Republicans control the senate and they will unabashedly ignore the very principles they treat as Biblical doctrine and pretend they see no crime. The Dems have to start convincing that ever so fickle public base of hyper consumers of his crimes so that they in turn put the Senators up for reelection in the hot seat. If they are unsuccessful at that, it’s all null and void. Idiocracy. Watch the movie. We now live it
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Post by lakeshow on Nov 12, 2019 22:39:25 GMT -8
November 8th marked the 3rd anniversary of the election.....it's felt like a lifetime and has been exhausting. Tomorrow starts the public hearings of the Impeachment testimonies. We'll see how this plays out, but it's time for this man to be stopped. It’s well past that time as he is a latent criminal masquerading as a demagogue. But the institutions have to function according to laws not party controlled mafias. The party has completely abandoned parliamentary politics; they’ll make a mountain out of a molehill (Benghazi) when they have control of oversight committees and they’ll completely turn a blind eye on the hundreds and hundreds of active offenses Trump commits now. Yes 100s. That abandonment of how parliamentary government is supposed to work is unabashedly being paraded through the bloodline of this country’s soul right now. Fuck anyone who’s living a con man’s ideological bubble of mind control, they don’t deserve to be listened to any more than any other delusional cult member schmuck. Obama is a Centrist, that means his political governance is a policy of compromise. Can anyone on the planet, think tanks, political commentary hacks make a sound argument as to how Trump and the Republican Party are operating in good faith respectful compromise? A system of checks and balances based on honorable values? Of course not. Because this is a government takeover, a free for all for lawlessness and public manipulation. It is the very essence of what hypocrite Conservatives claim to fear the most; big government. Trump is enormous govenment. He’s actively redirecting public funds, ie what working people pay and he avoids, and using it for his own gain all across the map. But so long as you have a bunch unevolved chimp brained Confederate retards in rural America too stupid to understand how they’re being conned, he seems to have a license to abuse power. The hearings may start tomorrow but the Republicans control the senate and they will unabashedly ignore the very principles they treat as Biblical doctrine and pretend they see no crime. The Dems have to start convincing that ever so fickle public base of hyper consumers of his crimes so that they in turn put the Senators up for reelection in the hot seat. If they are unsuccessful at that, it’s all null and void. Essentially the Dems have to make the case against Trump so strong that it would have to make decent people question why they would consider voting for him (that's assuming he stays in office) in 2020. Chances are less than 1% he is going to be removed by the Senate (as you implied) unless some bombshell news dropped that would have to make the hardest Trump supporter in the Senate to support removal. But I would say if he is impeached by the House, that could be enough to make it that much harder for Trump to be re-elected raising more doubts in the minds of the swing voters about his fitness as president for another term. Removal is unrealistic based on Republican control of the Senate, but I'll take an impeachment in the House.
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Post by history2b on Nov 12, 2019 22:50:29 GMT -8
It’s well past that time as he is a latent criminal masquerading as a demagogue. But the institutions have to function according to laws not party controlled mafias. The party has completely abandoned parliamentary politics; they’ll make a mountain out of a molehill (Benghazi) when they have control of oversight committees and they’ll completely turn a blind eye on the hundreds and hundreds of active offenses Trump commits now. Yes 100s. That abandonment of how parliamentary government is supposed to work is unabashedly being paraded through the bloodline of this country’s soul right now. Fuck anyone who’s living a con man’s ideological bubble of mind control, they don’t deserve to be listened to any more than any other delusional cult member schmuck. Obama is a Centrist, that means his political governance is a policy of compromise. Can anyone on the planet, think tanks, political commentary hacks make a sound argument as to how Trump and the Republican Party are operating in good faith respectful compromise? A system of checks and balances based on honorable values? Of course not. Because this is a government takeover, a free for all for lawlessness and public manipulation. It is the very essence of what hypocrite Conservatives claim to fear the most; big government. Trump is enormous govenment. He’s actively redirecting public funds, ie what working people pay and he avoids, and using it for his own gain all across the map. But so long as you have a bunch unevolved chimp brained Confederate retards in rural America too stupid to understand how they’re being conned, he seems to have a license to abuse power. The hearings may start tomorrow but the Republicans control the senate and they will unabashedly ignore the very principles they treat as Biblical doctrine and pretend they see no crime. The Dems have to start convincing that ever so fickle public base of hyper consumers of his crimes so that they in turn put the Senators up for reelection in the hot seat. If they are unsuccessful at that, it’s all null and void. Essentially the Dems have to make the case against Trump so strong that it would have to make decent people question why they would consider voting for him (that's assuming he stays in office) in 2020. Chances are less than 1% he is going to be removed by the Senate (as you implied) unless some bombshell news dropped that would have to make the hardest Trump supporter in the Senate to support removal. But I would say if he is impeached by the House, that could be enough to make it that much harder for Trump to be re-elected raising more doubts in the minds of the swing voters about his fitness as president for another term. Removal is unrealistic based on Republican control of the Senate, but I'll take an impeachment in the House. Not if the Senate clears him before the election. If the entire Impeachment concludes before November then the Republicans win by letting Trump run around telling those same stupid people that he’s been exonerated, just like the Mueller Investigation, even though he wasn’t at all exonerated, he touted as such again and again. Tell stupid people the same lie over and over again, you win. The key is stupid people.
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Post by history2b on Nov 12, 2019 22:51:18 GMT -8
It’s well past that time as he is a latent criminal masquerading as a demagogue. But the institutions have to function according to laws not party controlled mafias. The party has completely abandoned parliamentary politics; they’ll make a mountain out of a molehill (Benghazi) when they have control of oversight committees and they’ll completely turn a blind eye on the hundreds and hundreds of active offenses Trump commits now. Yes 100s. That abandonment of how parliamentary government is supposed to work is unabashedly being paraded through the bloodline of this country’s soul right now. Fuck anyone who’s living a con man’s ideological bubble of mind control, they don’t deserve to be listened to any more than any other delusional cult member schmuck. Obama is a Centrist, that means his political governance is a policy of compromise. Can anyone on the planet, think tanks, political commentary hacks make a sound argument as to how Trump and the Republican Party are operating in good faith respectful compromise? A system of checks and balances based on honorable values? Of course not. Because this is a government takeover, a free for all for lawlessness and public manipulation. It is the very essence of what hypocrite Conservatives claim to fear the most; big government. Trump is enormous govenment. He’s actively redirecting public funds, ie what working people pay and he avoids, and using it for his own gain all across the map. But so long as you have a bunch unevolved chimp brained Confederate retards in rural America too stupid to understand how they’re being conned, he seems to have a license to abuse power. The hearings may start tomorrow but the Republicans control the senate and they will unabashedly ignore the very principles they treat as Biblical doctrine and pretend they see no crime. The Dems have to start convincing that ever so fickle public base of hyper consumers of his crimes so that they in turn put the Senators up for reelection in the hot seat. If they are unsuccessful at that, it’s all null and void. Idiocracy. Watch the movie. We now live it I remember it. But it doesn’t accurately portray how. This reality isn’t comedy.
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Post by lakeshow on Nov 13, 2019 6:11:51 GMT -8
Essentially the Dems have to make the case against Trump so strong that it would have to make decent people question why they would consider voting for him (that's assuming he stays in office) in 2020. Chances are less than 1% he is going to be removed by the Senate (as you implied) unless some bombshell news dropped that would have to make the hardest Trump supporter in the Senate to support removal. But I would say if he is impeached by the House, that could be enough to make it that much harder for Trump to be re-elected raising more doubts in the minds of the swing voters about his fitness as president for another term. Removal is unrealistic based on Republican control of the Senate, but I'll take an impeachment in the House. Not if the Senate clears him before the election. If the entire Impeachment concludes before November then the Republicans win by letting Trump run around telling those same stupid people that he’s been exonerated, just like the Mueller Investigation, even though he wasn’t at all exonerated, he touted as such again and again. Tell stupid people the same lie over and over again, you win. The key is stupid people. Well, I don't see the impeachment hearing being done in November at all. The House was talking about December sometime. But the point is there is a very high probability Trump is going to remain in office at least until the election. I don't think there's any getting around that reality. So the practical thing the Dems can do is impeach him and make the strongest case possible against him. Yeah, Trump and his cronies will claim whatever they want to claim after the impeachment vote and Senate investigation, but that at least puts more of a dent into his presidency. The key is not winning over the hardcore Trump drones, it's convincing enough people that his election was a sham and not to make the same mistake again in 2020.
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Post by shopson67 on Nov 14, 2019 9:51:54 GMT -8
It’s well past that time as he is a latent criminal masquerading as a demagogue. But the institutions have to function according to laws not party controlled mafias. The party has completely abandoned parliamentary politics; they’ll make a mountain out of a molehill (Benghazi) when they have control of oversight committees and they’ll completely turn a blind eye on the hundreds and hundreds of active offenses Trump commits now. Yes 100s. That abandonment of how parliamentary government is supposed to work is unabashedly being paraded through the bloodline of this country’s soul right now. Fuck anyone who’s living a con man’s ideological bubble of mind control, they don’t deserve to be listened to any more than any other delusional cult member schmuck. Obama is a Centrist, that means his political governance is a policy of compromise. Can anyone on the planet, think tanks, political commentary hacks make a sound argument as to how Trump and the Republican Party are operating in good faith respectful compromise? A system of checks and balances based on honorable values? Of course not. Because this is a government takeover, a free for all for lawlessness and public manipulation. It is the very essence of what hypocrite Conservatives claim to fear the most; big government. Trump is enormous govenment. He’s actively redirecting public funds, ie what working people pay and he avoids, and using it for his own gain all across the map. But so long as you have a bunch unevolved chimp brained Confederate retards in rural America too stupid to understand how they’re being conned, he seems to have a license to abuse power. The hearings may start tomorrow but the Republicans control the senate and they will unabashedly ignore the very principles they treat as Biblical doctrine and pretend they see no crime. The Dems have to start convincing that ever so fickle public base of hyper consumers of his crimes so that they in turn put the Senators up for reelection in the hot seat. If they are unsuccessful at that, it’s all null and void. Idiocracy. Watch the movie. We now live it Sadly true. The internet has an ugly effect on many people.
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Post by shopson67 on Nov 14, 2019 9:53:18 GMT -8
The people wanted a business-minded person instead of a politician. What they got was a used car salesman and swindler. ...or Tony Soprano Nah, Tony had an idea of what he was doing.
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Post by samadams10 on Nov 14, 2019 22:26:46 GMT -8
Essentially the Dems have to make the case against Trump so strong that it would have to make decent people question why they would consider voting for him (that's assuming he stays in office) in 2020. Chances are less than 1% he is going to be removed by the Senate (as you implied) unless some bombshell news dropped that would have to make the hardest Trump supporter in the Senate to support removal. But I would say if he is impeached by the House, that could be enough to make it that much harder for Trump to be re-elected raising more doubts in the minds of the swing voters about his fitness as president for another term. Removal is unrealistic based on Republican control of the Senate, but I'll take an impeachment in the House. Not if the Senate clears him before the election. If the entire Impeachment concludes before November then the Republicans win by letting Trump run around telling those same stupid people that he’s been exonerated, just like the Mueller Investigation, even though he wasn’t at all exonerated, he touted as such again and again. Tell stupid people the same lie over and over again, you win. The key is stupid people. Spot on on the exoneration.
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Post by lakeshow on Nov 15, 2019 12:59:35 GMT -8
Nah, Tony had an idea of what he was doing. So does Trump He is no dummy (except when it comes to the Constitution) and knows exactly what he's doing--Being a con artist.
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Post by hackashaq on Nov 15, 2019 16:51:38 GMT -8
I have never heard of a President undermining so many people in his own State Department and his diplomatic staff in this manner, and I am appalled that these actions are being justified by his Republican cohorts.
Now we hear Trump wants South Korea, a key ally in Asia and a staunch supporter of the US, to pay 400% more to house troops on the Korean Peninsula. This guy treats North Korea better.
He’s got to be a Russian agent.
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Post by lakeshow on Nov 17, 2019 11:25:28 GMT -8
Another Democrat wins governor seat in deep Red Louisiana.....and he won it in a re-election at that.
Another referendum on Con Man Trump.
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