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Post by history2b on Jan 20, 2021 23:17:39 GMT -8
So Biden gets sworn in as POTUS and Antifa starts rioting in Portland and Seattle! Go figure. Because the anarchists aren’t Democrats, they don’t support neoliberalism and right wing media conflation that they did is exactly the sensationalistic fluff they sell.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jan 21, 2021 4:27:11 GMT -8
So Biden gets sworn in as POTUS and Antifa starts rioting in Portland and Seattle! Go figure. Because the anarchists aren’t Democrats, they don’t support neoliberalism and right wing media conflation that they did is exactly the sensationalistic fluff they sell. They are radical leftists and criminals and must be dealt with.
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Post by lakeshow on Jan 21, 2021 5:47:31 GMT -8
Because the anarchists aren’t Democrats, they don’t support neoliberalism and right wing media conflation that they did is exactly the sensationalistic fluff they sell. They are radical leftists and criminals and must be dealt with. It's time to change your signature dude.... It's 2021 and Biden is president.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jan 21, 2021 7:55:51 GMT -8
They are radical leftists and criminals and must be dealt with. It's time to change your signature dude.... It's 2021 and Biden is president. Congratulations to Biden! Unfortunately, the radical leftists will be a thorn in his ass. What they did last night in multiple cities will only get worse.
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Post by lakeshow on Jan 21, 2021 9:25:22 GMT -8
It's time to change your signature dude.... It's 2021 and Biden is president. Congratulations to Biden! Unfortunately, the radical leftists will be a thorn in his ass. What they did last night in multiple cities will only get worse. A big reason why there are extreme folks on the left was because of Donald Trump in the first place. You didn't see these guys around under Obama and Bush, nor did you see white neo nazis have a voice either. When Trump unleashed white nationalism, gave it a voice, and invited it into the White House in 2015, this unleashed everything we are seeing today plus baseless conspiracy theories. This is about cause and effect. But simpletons won't make that connection because they fail to see context and causality. Second, when extremism is not given oxygen from elected officials, it's a lot easier to contain than when it is enabled by those in power. Biden will have to deal with this, but at least he's not going to give it life like Trump did.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jan 21, 2021 11:45:02 GMT -8
Congratulations to Biden! Unfortunately, the radical leftists will be a thorn in his ass. What they did last night in multiple cities will only get worse. A big reason why there are extreme folks on the left was because of Donald Trump in the first place. You didn't see these guys around under Obama and Bush, nor did you see white neo nazis have a voice either. When Trump unleashed white nationalism, gave it a voice, and invited it into the White House in 2015, this unleashed everything we are seeing today plus baseless conspiracy theories. This is about cause and effect. But simpletons won't make that connection because they fail to see context and causality. Second, when extremism is not given oxygen from elected officials, it's a lot easier to contain than when it is enabled by those in power. Biden will have to deal with this, but at least he's not going to give it life like Trump did. I guess you’re too young to remember Occupy Wall Street during Bush’s Presidency. Those radical leftists destroyed, burned and looted too. Simpletons won’t acknowledge what happened during the Bush years, unless they were kids at the time!
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Post by hackashaq on Jan 21, 2021 13:25:55 GMT -8
A big reason why there are extreme folks on the left was because of Donald Trump in the first place. You didn't see these guys around under Obama and Bush, nor did you see white neo nazis have a voice either. When Trump unleashed white nationalism, gave it a voice, and invited it into the White House in 2015, this unleashed everything we are seeing today plus baseless conspiracy theories. This is about cause and effect. But simpletons won't make that connection because they fail to see context and causality. Second, when extremism is not given oxygen from elected officials, it's a lot easier to contain than when it is enabled by those in power. Biden will have to deal with this, but at least he's not going to give it life like Trump did. I guess you’re too young to remember Occupy Wall Street during Bush’s Presidency. Those radical leftists destroyed, burned and looted too. Simpletons won’t acknowledge what happened during the Bush years, unless they were kids at the time! Another false equivalency. Don't remember Occupy Wall Street members storming the Capitol over a legitimate election, do you? I don't remember them with zips ties and body armor trying to "arrest" sitting members of Congress. I don't remember any Occupy Wall Street members carrying semi-automatic weapons and full military gear busting through state capitol buildings and threatening to kidnap elected officials.....and get away with it alive or at least arrested. Didn't remember anyone from Occupy Wall Street literally travelling cross state with an semi-automatic weapon literally shoot at kill two unarmed demonstrators and then be treated like a hero. False equivalency. They are not at all similar situations. They are not the same. The conservative, right wing, corporatist arm that culminated in an actual potential coup just a few weeks ago are clearly the more dangerous group that needs to be rooted out and arrested for serious crimes.
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Post by lakeshow on Jan 21, 2021 13:27:12 GMT -8
A big reason why there are extreme folks on the left was because of Donald Trump in the first place. You didn't see these guys around under Obama and Bush, nor did you see white neo nazis have a voice either. When Trump unleashed white nationalism, gave it a voice, and invited it into the White House in 2015, this unleashed everything we are seeing today plus baseless conspiracy theories. This is about cause and effect. But simpletons won't make that connection because they fail to see context and causality. Second, when extremism is not given oxygen from elected officials, it's a lot easier to contain than when it is enabled by those in power. Biden will have to deal with this, but at least he's not going to give it life like Trump did. I guess you’re too young to remember Occupy Wall Street during Bush’s Presidency. Those radical leftists destroyed, burned and looted too. Simpletons won’t acknowledge what happened during the Bush years, unless they were kids at the time! LOL You don't even know when the Occupy Wall street movement even happened. That movement started under Obama in 2011, not Bush you dummy. Judging by what you say on here and the fact that you couldn't even get this right, I know that I'm older than you. Second, you have once again proven you don't know how to critically analyze anything. The Occupy Wallstreet movement was a movement against corporate greed and economic inequality, so comparing them to white nationalists and groups like antifa shows how ignorant you really are. The Occupy movement was not just made up of "leftists", it was also made up of middle class folks across many backgrounds who were fed up with Wall Street fat cats getting breaks and bailouts from the government while the average American citizen still struggled economically to get on their feet due to the Great Recession caused by the rampant greed of the industry you currently work in. You better go read a book and educate yourself first before you continue to embarrass yourself debating me on here.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jan 21, 2021 14:33:34 GMT -8
I guess you’re too young to remember Occupy Wall Street during Bush’s Presidency. Those radical leftists destroyed, burned and looted too. Simpletons won’t acknowledge what happened during the Bush years, unless they were kids at the time! LOL You don't even know when the Occupy Wall street movement even happened. That movement started under Obama in 2011, not Bush you dummy. Judging by what you say on here and the fact that you couldn't even get this right, I know that I'm older than you. Second, you have once again proven you don't know how to critically analyze anything. The Occupy Wallstreet movement was a movement against corporate greed and economic inequality, so comparing them to white nationalists and groups like antifa shows how ignorant you really are. The Occupy movement was not just made up of "leftists", it was also made up of middle class folks across many backgrounds who were fed up with Wall Street fat cats getting breaks and bailouts from the government while the average American citizen still struggled economically to get on their feet due to the Great Recession caused by the rampant greed of the industry you currently work in. You better go read a book and educate yourself first before you continue to embarrass yourself debating me on here. Your dumbass thought the Anarchy movement started because of Trump. You're wrong. I was 3 years off, so what. You're 10 years off. They destroyed shit everywhere. And no one is making a false equvialancy to the rioters at the capital.They are all criminals and need to be dealth with. Dementia Joe is going to age real quick because of A. Take a look at your peacefull Occupy Wall Street protestors. Go ahead. Take a look! www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-azdxcMAM4&ab_channel=CBSNews
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Post by lakeshow on Jan 21, 2021 15:18:00 GMT -8
LOL You don't even know when the Occupy Wall street movement even happened. That movement started under Obama in 2011, not Bush you dummy. Judging by what you say on here and the fact that you couldn't even get this right, I know that I'm older than you. Second, you have once again proven you don't know how to critically analyze anything. The Occupy Wallstreet movement was a movement against corporate greed and economic inequality, so comparing them to white nationalists and groups like antifa shows how ignorant you really are. The Occupy movement was not just made up of "leftists", it was also made up of middle class folks across many backgrounds who were fed up with Wall Street fat cats getting breaks and bailouts from the government while the average American citizen still struggled economically to get on their feet due to the Great Recession caused by the rampant greed of the industry you currently work in. You better go read a book and educate yourself first before you continue to embarrass yourself debating me on here. Your dumbass thought the Anarchy movement started because of Trump. You're wrong. I was 3 years off, so what. You're 10 years off. They destroyed shit everywhere. And no one is making an equvialancy to the rioters at the capital.They are all criminals and need to be dealth with. Dementia Joe is going to age real quick because of A. Take a look at your peacefull Occupy Wall Street protestors. Go ahead. Take a look! www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-azdxcMAM4&ab_channel=CBSNewsNope wrong again. I never said the “anarchy movement” started because of Trump. I said Trump gave white nationalism and fringe conspiracy groups a PLATFORM and a VOICE. Of course these guys were around before Trump, but they were never given a platform by any modern day president. Extremists on the left are a response to the rise of fringe groups and white nationalism exploited by Trump and injustice in law enforcement towards people of color. And groups like BLM and Antifa NEVER tried to overthrow a legitimate democratic election like fringe right wing conspiracy groups and white nationalists tried 2 weeks ago. While violence is never ok, you’ll never convince me that groups like BLM and Antifa are the same as the right wing fanatics who tried to burn down Washington because they didn’t like the outcome of a legitimate election. And yes, you ARE making an equivalency to the unrest on the streets in cities across America to the rioters and those who had a hand in the murder of 5 people at the Capitol building. But I know I know, you still think there are “fine people” on both sides.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jan 21, 2021 15:39:53 GMT -8
Your dumbass thought the Anarchy movement started because of Trump. You're wrong. I was 3 years off, so what. You're 10 years off. They destroyed shit everywhere. And no one is making an equvialancy to the rioters at the capital.They are all criminals and need to be dealth with. Dementia Joe is going to age real quick because of A. Take a look at your peacefull Occupy Wall Street protestors. Go ahead. Take a look! www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-azdxcMAM4&ab_channel=CBSNewsNope wrong again. I never said the “anarchy movement” started because of Trump. I said Trump gave white nationalism and fringe conspiracy groups a PLATFORM and a VOICE. Of course these guys were around before Trump, but they were never given a platform by any modern day president. Extremists on the left are a response to the rise of fringe groups and white nationalism exploited by Trump and injustice in law enforcement towards people of color. And groups like BLM and Antifa NEVER tried to overthrow a legitimate democratic election like fringe right wing conspiracy groups and white nationalists tried 2 weeks ago. While violence is never ok, you’ll never convince me that groups like BLM and Antifa are the same as the right wing fanatics who tried to burn down Washington because they didn’t like the outcome of a legitimate election. And yes, you ARE making an equivalency to the unrest on the streets in cities across America to the rioters and those who had a hand in the murder of 5 people at the Capitol building. But I know I know, you still think there are “fine people” on both sides. No! There are criminals on both sides that need to be dealt with. Let’s see who will be in the streets tonight destroying public & private property, burning American Flags and calling for revolution!
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Post by lakeshow on Jan 21, 2021 17:13:39 GMT -8
Nope wrong again. I never said the “anarchy movement” started because of Trump. I said Trump gave white nationalism and fringe conspiracy groups a PLATFORM and a VOICE. Of course these guys were around before Trump, but they were never given a platform by any modern day president. Extremists on the left are a response to the rise of fringe groups and white nationalism exploited by Trump and injustice in law enforcement towards people of color. And groups like BLM and Antifa NEVER tried to overthrow a legitimate democratic election like fringe right wing conspiracy groups and white nationalists tried 2 weeks ago. While violence is never ok, you’ll never convince me that groups like BLM and Antifa are the same as the right wing fanatics who tried to burn down Washington because they didn’t like the outcome of a legitimate election. And yes, you ARE making an equivalency to the unrest on the streets in cities across America to the rioters and those who had a hand in the murder of 5 people at the Capitol building. But I know I know, you still think there are “fine people” on both sides. No! There are criminals on both sides that need to be dealt with. Let’s see who will be in the streets tonight destroying public & private property, burning American Flags and calling for revolution! Burning American flags is not illegal. Go read the 1st Amendment and the Supreme Court case of Texas vs. Johnson.
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Post by history2b on Jan 21, 2021 17:18:42 GMT -8
LOL You don't even know when the Occupy Wall street movement even happened. That movement started under Obama in 2011, not Bush you dummy. Judging by what you say on here and the fact that you couldn't even get this right, I know that I'm older than you. Second, you have once again proven you don't know how to critically analyze anything. The Occupy Wallstreet movement was a movement against corporate greed and economic inequality, so comparing them to white nationalists and groups like antifa shows how ignorant you really are. The Occupy movement was not just made up of "leftists", it was also made up of middle class folks across many backgrounds who were fed up with Wall Street fat cats getting breaks and bailouts from the government while the average American citizen still struggled economically to get on their feet due to the Great Recession caused by the rampant greed of the industry you currently work in. You better go read a book and educate yourself first before you continue to embarrass yourself debating me on here. Your dumbass thought the Anarchy movement started because of Trump. You're wrong. I was 3 years off, so what. You're 10 years off. They destroyed shit everywhere. And no one is making a false equvialancy to the rioters at the capital.They are all criminals and need to be dealth with. Dementia Joe is going to age real quick because of A. Take a look at your peacefull Occupy Wall Street protestors. Go ahead. Take a look! www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-azdxcMAM4&ab_channel=CBSNewsThe Occupy movement was not in any exclusively leftist. The Tea Party was involved with sustained protests. Your saying you were 3 years off is significant because it attempted to paint a “leftist” agains the “right” position, which is complete bullshit. Both movements were against corporatism and the bailing out of banks by Obama and the fed. I’m starting to see WAAAAAY MORE talk of all this “protesting” now that right wing retards stormed the Capitol and attempted to overturn a democratic election. That specific action has no parallel in US history no matter how much right wing media is now conflating their readers to talk about Portland or Occupy. Just means you’re being programmed tbh. As it is the Feds and state governments are racing to outlaw protest outright through various means right now. They can only get away with it if there are enough people programmed to focus on “all this destruction” which is literally pennies on the dollar compared to the looting of the US treasury by Trump and big business in 2020. Don’t be dumb enough to focus on pennies.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jan 21, 2021 17:47:39 GMT -8
No! There are criminals on both sides that need to be dealt with. Let’s see who will be in the streets tonight destroying public & private property, burning American Flags and calling for revolution! Burning American flags is not illegal. Go read the 1st Amendment and the Supreme Court case of Texas vs. Johnson. Destroying public and private property is illegal. Criminality that needs to be dealt with.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jan 21, 2021 18:10:56 GMT -8
Your dumbass thought the Anarchy movement started because of Trump. You're wrong. I was 3 years off, so what. You're 10 years off. They destroyed shit everywhere. And no one is making a false equvialancy to the rioters at the capital.They are all criminals and need to be dealth with. Dementia Joe is going to age real quick because of A. Take a look at your peacefull Occupy Wall Street protestors. Go ahead. Take a look! www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-azdxcMAM4&ab_channel=CBSNewsThe Occupy movement was in any exclusively leftist. The Tea Party was involved with sustained protests. Your saying you were 3 years off is significant because it attempted to paint a “leftist” agains the “right” position, which is complete bullshit. Both movements were against corporatism and the bailing out of banks by Obama and the fed. I’m starting to see WAAAAAY MORE talk of all this “protesting” now that right wing retards stormed the Capitol and attempted to overturn a democratic election. That specific action has no parallel in US history no matter how much right wing media is now conflating their readers to talk about Portland or Occupy. Just means you’re being programmed tbh. As it is the Feds and state governments are racing to outlaw protest outright through various means right now. They can only get away with it if there are enough people programmed to focus on “all this destruction” which is literally pennies on the dollar compared to the looting of the US treasury by Trump and big business in 2020. Don’t be dumb enough to focus on pennies. People havn't just start talking about the riots, destruction, burning and death last summer. They've been talking about it for months. Well, some have. Either way, let's see who riots tonight, tomorrow, next week and next month.
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Post by history2b on Jan 21, 2021 18:20:05 GMT -8
The Occupy movement was in any exclusively leftist. The Tea Party was involved with sustained protests. Your saying you were 3 years off is significant because it attempted to paint a “leftist” agains the “right” position, which is complete bullshit. Both movements were against corporatism and the bailing out of banks by Obama and the fed. I’m starting to see WAAAAAY MORE talk of all this “protesting” now that right wing retards stormed the Capitol and attempted to overturn a democratic election. That specific action has no parallel in US history no matter how much right wing media is now conflating their readers to talk about Portland or Occupy. Just means you’re being programmed tbh. As it is the Feds and state governments are racing to outlaw protest outright through various means right now. They can only get away with it if there are enough people programmed to focus on “all this destruction” which is literally pennies on the dollar compared to the looting of the US treasury by Trump and big business in 2020. Don’t be dumb enough to focus on pennies. People havn't just start talking about the riots, destruction, burning and death last summer. They've been talking about it for months. Well, some have. Either way, let's see who riots tonight, tomorrow, next week and next month. Riots happen when power steals wealth. Happens all the time throughout history, throughout all civilizations. The wealth theft has been happening at a rate unseen in US history since around 2008. The backlash is growing. It can either be dealt with in 1 of 2 ways: The state can continue to strangle the populace into submission through a further militarized forces, making speech and protest essentially illegal in forms that were considered pillars of liberty before. Or it can become more equitable for people across the board. Only 2 routes. Biden, based on his current plan and ideology is needed but woefully inadequate to address all of the inequality that exists. 3 things he can do to reverse course would be: Medicare for All Federal Jobs Act Green New Deal So long as Republican forces restrict those moves (and Neoliberal Dems) protests, homelessness, mass underemployment and destruction will continue.
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Post by lakeshow on Jan 21, 2021 20:01:32 GMT -8
Burning American flags is not illegal. Go read the 1st Amendment and the Supreme Court case of Texas vs. Johnson. Destroying public and private property is illegal. Criminality that needs to be dealt with. You can’t have a conversation with simpletons who only look at the effects of societal upheaval but can’t understand or are unwilling to understand causality.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jan 21, 2021 21:00:28 GMT -8
Destroying public and private property is illegal. Criminality that needs to be dealt with. You can’t have a conversation with simpletons who only look at the effects of societal upheaval but can’t understand or are unwilling to understand causality. You can’t have a conversation with one sided partisan idiots who don’t understand criminality from the radicals on the Right and the Left. Period.
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Post by history2b on Jan 21, 2021 23:44:22 GMT -8
You can’t have a conversation with simpletons who only look at the effects of societal upheaval but can’t understand or are unwilling to understand causality. You can’t have a conversation with one sided partisan idiots who don’t understand criminality from the radicals on the Right and the Left. Period. Criminality is directly correlated to governance. Fix the system before the whole bubble bursts. Keep inflating trillions of dollars into the economy by artificially creating capital that does not exist, and the entire value of the US dollar drops due to hyperinflation. An economic effect that will take place as soon as global investors who hold the debts and bonds decide to cash in. Multiple countries who once held gold reserves here have since moved them back to their own vaults. As it is, The Peoples Republic of China is the largest debt holder of US debt. Republican and Democrat public stances are for nothing but political theater. Did you know that just after Trump was given classified information informing a highly contagious airborne disease and publicly confirmed by China and The WHO Trump said “we love each other” when talking about Chairman Xi! But if China starts dumping our debt buckle up for WW3.
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Post by lakeshow on Jan 22, 2021 1:54:43 GMT -8
You can’t have a conversation with simpletons who only look at the effects of societal upheaval but can’t understand or are unwilling to understand causality. You can’t have a conversation with one sided partisan idiots who don’t understand criminality from the radicals on the Right and the Left. Period. Where were you and all the other Trumpanzees when Trump was guilty of lying conning people to buy into his scandalous “Trump university” scheme? When he lied his way out of the numerous sexual assault allegations? When he accused others for crimes they didn’t commit (Central Park 5) and has never apologized for his wrongful accusations that led to their wrongful conviction even when the truth served to be contrary? When inciting a mob to commit an insurrection that eventually led to the murder of 5 people? Until you are willing to honestly address these things, don’t talk to me about criminality.
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