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Post by lakerfan198O on Jun 29, 2022 17:21:14 GMT -8
Yes, I believe you are correct on this ruling. However, it's still a deeply insulting ruling. If any American citizen visited a foreign country, then that person is expected to follow the laws of that country and if they break the law, then they are obligated to pay the consequences under the laws of that country. No one argues with that reality. Native American land is very similar to being a foreign nation, if not the same. The court's ruling in essence is saying that if a non-native commits a crime in Native American territory, then that person is not obligated to be penalized under Native sovereignty laws or the federal government. It's as if I went to another country and broke the law and then get to tell them that their laws don't matter because I'm under the jurisdiction of U.S. laws even in another country. And yes I remember very much the day I created this thread and some folks suggesting that Trump and Clinton were both equally terrible candidates and therefore it didn't matter that Trump was in office. I argued against that idea (as well as you and some others here) then, I continue to argue against that way of thinking today, and will continue to argue against it in the future. Trump was never a Republican--he is a neo-fascist white nationalist who just turned the Republican Party more extreme. This was obvious from the first day he announced he was running for president and should have been noted as far back as 2011 by his public comments about Obama. Lol yup. And if you’re black and you’re gonna Uncle Tom for THAT guy?? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Dats not true, Massa says me gets money 💰 if he King, so mees gonna suck him off like me Uncle Tom did to his ancestors 200 years ago!
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Post by Fanofish on Jun 29, 2022 18:10:02 GMT -8
The Supreme Court just ruled that the state of Oklahoma now has jurisdiction over Native Americans on Native American land. A right that Native Americans had for years. This is the most dangerous SCOTUS in modern American history. This sets a dangerous precedent for giving many states authority over Native American territory that was protected by the federal government. This story won't get much news because Americans in general don't give a darn about Native Americans. While this is a tragedy, it keeps with the pattern of this nation continually breaking treaties and promises against Native Americans for well over two centuries. Another sign that the pillars collapsing around what has held this country together for centuries. Another sign that the system is fragile and a tinderbox. But I believe this ruling only gives states the right to prosecute non natives on Native territory. When Captain Con Artist took over in 2016 and ultimately appointed not 1, not 2 but 3 SCJ’s all based on hypocritical parliamentary terms this was very predictable. Remember when this thread was made and certain people who voted for Trump said they didn’t think he would be any different than Presidents before? Besides being delusional they are also cowards for not having the nut sack to admit being wrong. Trump couldn’t have done any of this without them. Elections have consequences
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Post by lakeshow on Jun 29, 2022 18:11:00 GMT -8
Yes, I believe you are correct on this ruling. However, it's still a deeply insulting ruling. If any American citizen visited a foreign country, then that person is expected to follow the laws of that country and if they break the law, then they are obligated to pay the consequences under the laws of that country. No one argues with that reality. Native American land is very similar to being a foreign nation, if not the same. The court's ruling in essence is saying that if a non-native commits a crime in Native American territory, then that person is not obligated to be penalized under Native sovereignty laws or the federal government. It's as if I went to another country and broke the law and then get to tell them that their laws don't matter because I'm under the jurisdiction of U.S. laws even in another country. And yes I remember very much the day I created this thread and some folks suggesting that Trump and Clinton were both equally terrible candidates and therefore it didn't matter that Trump was in office. I argued against that idea (as well as you and some others here) then, I continue to argue against that way of thinking today, and will continue to argue against it in the future. Trump was never a Republican--he is a neo-fascist white nationalist who just turned the Republican Party more extreme. This was obvious from the first day he announced he was running for president and should have been noted as far back as 2011 by his public comments about Obama. Lol yup. And if you’re black and you’re gonna Uncle Tom for THAT guy?? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 And trust and believe 2b, there's some blacks out there who are drinking that kool-aid too....smh.
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Post by samadams10 on Jun 29, 2022 20:29:07 GMT -8
Lol yup. And if you’re black and you’re gonna Uncle Tom for THAT guy?? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 And trust and believe 2b, there's some blacks out there who are drinking that kool-aid too....smh. Clarence Thomas?
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Post by hackashaq on Jun 30, 2022 14:53:10 GMT -8
And trust and believe 2b, there's some blacks out there who are drinking that kool-aid too....smh. Clarence Thomas? He is self hate in the flesh.
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Post by history2b on Jul 4, 2022 12:07:39 GMT -8
Another Trump fascist fuckhead committed a mass shooting, killing 6 people and injuring dozens more all on Independence Day celebrating the holiday at a parade.
These people are sick and disgusting people who deserve no respect from the rest of society.
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Post by hackashaq on Jul 4, 2022 13:06:41 GMT -8
Another Trump fascist fuckhead committed a mass shooting, killing 6 people and injuring dozens more all on Independence Day celebrating the holiday at a parade. These people are sick and disgusting people who deserve no respect from the rest of society. Yes but let’s stop abortion. That’s a national and moral crime.
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Post by history2b on Jul 4, 2022 13:12:20 GMT -8
Another Trump fascist fuckhead committed a mass shooting, killing 6 people and injuring dozens more all on Independence Day celebrating the holiday at a parade. These people are sick and disgusting people who deserve no respect from the rest of society. Yes but let’s stop abortion. That’s a national and moral crime. Christian heretics. That’s what these fucktards are. They believe in the prosperity gospel, a distortion of the Bible that effectively reverses Jesus’ teachings to mean that wealth and prosperity will be bestowed upon those who believe, re: be stupid enough to believe these religious leaders. We have our very own resident dumbfuck who believes this nonsense. Fuck them all.
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Post by lakeshow on Jul 4, 2022 17:55:20 GMT -8
Yes but let’s stop abortion. That’s a national and moral crime. Christian heretics. That’s what these fucktards are. They believe in the prosperity gospel, a distortion of the Bible that effectively reverses Jesus’ teachings to mean that wealth and prosperity will be bestowed upon those who believe, re: be stupid enough to believe these religious leaders. We have our very own resident dumbfuck who believes this nonsense. Fuck them all. Prosperity gospel is definitely a scam and the complete opposite of what scriptures teach 2b, you're absolutely correct. I would just say that the prosperity gospel doctrine is not representative of everybody who practices their faith however.
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Post by history2b on Jul 4, 2022 19:03:01 GMT -8
Christian heretics. That’s what these fucktards are. They believe in the prosperity gospel, a distortion of the Bible that effectively reverses Jesus’ teachings to mean that wealth and prosperity will be bestowed upon those who believe, re: be stupid enough to believe these religious leaders. We have our very own resident dumbfuck who believes this nonsense. Fuck them all. Prosperity gospel is definitely a scam and the complete opposite of what scriptures teach 2b, you're absolutely correct. I would just say that the prosperity gospel doctrine is not representative of everybody who practices their faith however. Of course not every Christian, but the Evangelical sect of Christianity it does imo. Their leaders are politicized heretics exploiting the faith of their followers to control politically. This is ALL of Trump’s cabinet, Pompeo, DeVos, press secretaries, even Clarence Thomas. This is now a theocratic takeover of state, imposing their heretical beliefs onto the nation, a move that makes the Constitution toilet paper. Brainwashed people of faith are prime political minions because they are completely oblivious to their manipulation and fervent vanguards of the ideology itself. The church manipulates the idea of “good” and “evil” a concept these people can always understand, follow orders etc. It is THIS connection to their overtaking of government that makes them the most dangerous people in the world. Trump doesn’t believe any of their garbage, privately he even thinks some of it is counter productive, but he plays the part of Con Man leader because all of their leaders are con artists. They prey on the emotions and vulnerabilities of their congregation. Even so, these people believe that Jesus is going to “bless” them with wealth and prosperity for being “born again” and giving their money to their leaders. If that ^^ isn’t the EXACT opposite of what Jesus was about I don’t know what is… maybe Jesus advocating guns and war too? Err wait? American Nazi’s that’s what they are, make no mistake about it.
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Post by chiefsdodgerslakers24 on Jul 4, 2022 20:41:34 GMT -8
Another Trump fascist fuckhead committed a mass shooting, killing 6 people and injuring dozens more all on Independence Day celebrating the holiday at a parade. These people are sick and disgusting people who deserve no respect from the rest of society. They be like lets ban abortion but enact absolutely no gun control measures. Protect the unborn but fuck the ones already here. the Constitution is outdated honestly. Why should a different era of people be deciding the laws for the present? times change, laws need to as well, especially that 2nd one.
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Post by history2b on Jul 4, 2022 21:30:45 GMT -8
Another Trump fascist fuckhead committed a mass shooting, killing 6 people and injuring dozens more all on Independence Day celebrating the holiday at a parade. These people are sick and disgusting people who deserve no respect from the rest of society. They be like lets ban abortion but enact absolutely no gun control measures. Protect the unborn but fuck the ones already here. the Constitution is outdated honestly. Why should a different era of people be deciding the laws for the present? times change, laws need to as well, especially that 2nd one. Completely agree.
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Post by shopson67 on Jul 5, 2022 6:01:48 GMT -8
Another Trump fascist fuckhead committed a mass shooting, killing 6 people and injuring dozens more all on Independence Day celebrating the holiday at a parade. These people are sick and disgusting people who deserve no respect from the rest of society. Yes but let’s stop abortion. That’s a national and moral crime. On that note, a 10 year old child rape victim, 6 weeks pregnant, was denied an abortion in Ohio and was forced to travel to Indiana.
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Post by samadams10 on Jul 5, 2022 19:53:33 GMT -8
Another Trump fascist fuckhead committed a mass shooting, killing 6 people and injuring dozens more all on Independence Day celebrating the holiday at a parade. These people are sick and disgusting people who deserve no respect from the rest of society. They be like lets ban abortion but enact absolutely no gun control measures. Protect the unborn but fuck the ones already here. the Constitution is outdated honestly. Why should a different era of people be deciding the laws for the present? times change, laws need to as well, especially that 2nd one. Yep. Agree as well. How is something written during a time when automatic weapons didn't exist be applicable to this period? They're weapons of mass killing. Similarly population proliferation is a basic historic tenet of religion. Multiply and spread which in turn brings back revenue. The key principle behind anti abortion. George Carlin said it best. “Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to 9 months. After that, they don’t wanna know about you. They don’t wanna hear from you. No nothing! No neonatal care, no daycare, no Head Start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you’re pre-born, you’re fine, if you’re preschool, you’re fucked.”
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Post by samadams10 on Jul 5, 2022 20:13:51 GMT -8
One thing is undeniable. Gotta hand it to those cuckservatives. They patiently chipped away at Roe v Wade for 50 years. Installed a puppet in Trump, looked the other way on all his sins and un Christian like behavior because abolishing Roe was their primary objective. Meanwhile Democraps are left with their dicks in their hands about to lose big in nov, making excuses for the absolutely failed Biden admin presiding over highest inflation in 40 yrs, economy in a recession, 7 dollar gallon gas, absolute disaster on COVID completely cowering to big business airline ceos who can't maintain adequate staffing as their employees are out sick more than ever before since lifting of the mask mandate by that idiot judge and no push back at all from Biden admin. The senile fuck instead is going around telling people to suck it up at the pump while be teaches Putin a lesson. His sanctions on Putin didn't stop the war but instead is destroying our own economy. Chop your own nose off to spite your face. With every shooting, him and Jill are shocked and saddened but can't do anything - it's manchinema and recunttlicans fault - how the fuck is this any different from thoughts and prayers? Nothing against the elderly but there needs to be an age limit to hold the most important job in the land. If someone has age can't be CEO of Microsoft or Alphabet, then presidency of the country is a much more important job. Now the idiot Democraps are crying about forgiving student debt. While you're at it, forgive the car loans and mortgages too. And they want to expand the supreme court and install more liberal judges. Good luck for a party that can't get shit done and is full of excuses. Btw the SC destroyed Bidens climate change program too. How's build back better coming along? My what an utter failure of a presidency.
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Post by history2b on Jul 5, 2022 22:12:06 GMT -8
One thing is undeniable. Gotta hand it to those cuckservatives. They patiently chipped away at Roe v Wade for 50 years. Installed a puppet in Trump, looked the other way on all his sins and un Christian like behavior because abolishing Roe was their primary objective. Meanwhile Democraps are left with their dicks in their hands about to lose big in nov, making excuses for the absolutely failed Biden admin presiding over highest inflation in 40 yrs, economy in a recession, 7 dollar gallon gas, absolute disaster on COVID completely cowering to big business airline ceos who can't maintain adequate staffing as their employees are out sick more than ever before since lifting of the mask mandate by that idiot judge and no push back at all from Biden admin. The senile fuck instead is going around telling people to suck it up at the pump while be teaches Putin a lesson. His sanctions on Putin didn't stop the war but instead is destroying our own economy. Chop your own nose off to spite your face. With every shooting, him and Jill are shocked and saddened but can't do anything - it's manchinema and recunttlicans fault - how the fuck is this any different from thoughts and prayers? Nothing against the elderly but there needs to be an age limit to hold the most important job in the land. If someone has age can't be CEO of Microsoft or Alphabet, then presidency of the country is a much more important job. Now the idiot Democraps are crying about forgiving student debt. While you're at it, forgive the car loans and mortgages too. And they want to expand the supreme court and install more liberal judges. Good luck for a party that can't get shit done and is full of excuses. Btw the SC destroyed Bidens climate change program too. How's build back better coming along? My what an utter failure of a presidency. While I agree with most of your assessment of the current situation and administration but as trash of a position to be in, it came down to either this or full blown fascism with the same economic problems going on only with Trump telling you it’s the greatest economy on earth, all while Democratic elections no longer matter and his grand master is now the supreme ruler now. Fuck off with that noise. All day every day. I wish the American people weren’t brainwashed and ignorant to think there is only 2 parties to vote for, there really shouldn’t be any expectation of anything less happening today.
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Post by samadams10 on Jul 6, 2022 6:04:04 GMT -8
One thing is undeniable. Gotta hand it to those cuckservatives. They patiently chipped away at Roe v Wade for 50 years. Installed a puppet in Trump, looked the other way on all his sins and un Christian like behavior because abolishing Roe was their primary objective. Meanwhile Democraps are left with their dicks in their hands about to lose big in nov, making excuses for the absolutely failed Biden admin presiding over highest inflation in 40 yrs, economy in a recession, 7 dollar gallon gas, absolute disaster on COVID completely cowering to big business airline ceos who can't maintain adequate staffing as their employees are out sick more than ever before since lifting of the mask mandate by that idiot judge and no push back at all from Biden admin. The senile fuck instead is going around telling people to suck it up at the pump while be teaches Putin a lesson. His sanctions on Putin didn't stop the war but instead is destroying our own economy. Chop your own nose off to spite your face. With every shooting, him and Jill are shocked and saddened but can't do anything - it's manchinema and recunttlicans fault - how the fuck is this any different from thoughts and prayers? Nothing against the elderly but there needs to be an age limit to hold the most important job in the land. If someone has age can't be CEO of Microsoft or Alphabet, then presidency of the country is a much more important job. Now the idiot Democraps are crying about forgiving student debt. While you're at it, forgive the car loans and mortgages too. And they want to expand the supreme court and install more liberal judges. Good luck for a party that can't get shit done and is full of excuses. Btw the SC destroyed Bidens climate change program too. How's build back better coming along? My what an utter failure of a presidency. While I agree with most of your assessment of the current situation and administration but as trash of a position to be in, it came down to either this or full blown fascism with the same economic problems going on only with Trump telling you it’s the greatest economy on earth, all while Democratic elections no longer matter and his grand master is now the supreme ruler now. Fuck off with that noise. All day every day. I wish the American people weren’t brainwashed and ignorant to think there is only 2 parties to vote for, there really shouldn’t be any expectation of anything less happening today. Yep it's a choice between awful and terrible.
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Post by shopson67 on Jul 6, 2022 8:36:07 GMT -8
While I agree with most of your assessment of the current situation and administration but as trash of a position to be in, it came down to either this or full blown fascism with the same economic problems going on only with Trump telling you it’s the greatest economy on earth, all while Democratic elections no longer matter and his grand master is now the supreme ruler now. Fuck off with that noise. All day every day. I wish the American people weren’t brainwashed and ignorant to think there is only 2 parties to vote for, there really shouldn’t be any expectation of anything less happening today. Problem is, the better Dem candidates are almost unelectable due to the biases of the public, whether it be race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, or some combo of those. Largely because of that, you end up with bland Grandpa to make sure you don't turn off the moderate voters, especially in a year when it was important to get Trump out. Who do they even turn to next? Run Biden again? It almost has to be someone we haven't really seen much of yet to run against DeSantis (or Trump again). The right has no problem pushing it's agendas. Meanwhile, the left either falls to the middle when challenged or goes so far left that they drive voters to the right. It's always easier to win with fear and reverting to the past than with progress and sacrifice.
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Post by samadams10 on Jul 6, 2022 20:34:54 GMT -8
While I agree with most of your assessment of the current situation and administration but as trash of a position to be in, it came down to either this or full blown fascism with the same economic problems going on only with Trump telling you it’s the greatest economy on earth, all while Democratic elections no longer matter and his grand master is now the supreme ruler now. Fuck off with that noise. All day every day. I wish the American people weren’t brainwashed and ignorant to think there is only 2 parties to vote for, there really shouldn’t be any expectation of anything less happening today. Problem is, the better Dem candidates are almost unelectable due to the biases of the public, whether it be race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, or some combo of those. Largely because of that, you end up with bland Grandpa to make sure you don't turn off the moderate voters, especially in a year when it was important to get Trump out. Who do they even turn to next? Run Biden again? It almost has to be someone we haven't really seen much of yet to run against DeSantis (or Trump again). The right has no problem pushing it's agendas. Meanwhile, the left either falls to the middle when challenged or goes so far left that they drive voters to the right. It's always easier to win with fear and reverting to the past than with progress and sacrifice. Where's Kamala? Non existent and stands no chance as the lead on a ticket. With at 79 yo Biden, that was poor planning. No chance any democrat beats Trump or Desabtis. Like I said. D's blew it.
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Post by lakeshow on Jul 7, 2022 8:26:21 GMT -8
We can kick and scream all day long about Biden and what we don’t like, but the bottom line is that it was either this or another 4 years of a white neo fascist dictator in office who was primed to do even more damage in a second term than what he would have done in his first.
F that
I’ll take what is happening today 100 times over what was for sure coming with Trump or a Trump clone for another 4 years. The democratic infrastructure of this country is more important than anything else including the economy. We have people in the right wing questioning the legitimacy of every freaking election at every level now when they lose. That has never happened and it all started with Trump and his lies about “voter fraud” even before the election of 2020 all because he knew he’d was going to lose but his ego would never allow him to admit that he lost in a legitimate election.
Perspective
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