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Post by shopson67 on Jul 7, 2022 8:44:09 GMT -8
Problem is, the better Dem candidates are almost unelectable due to the biases of the public, whether it be race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, or some combo of those. Largely because of that, you end up with bland Grandpa to make sure you don't turn off the moderate voters, especially in a year when it was important to get Trump out. Who do they even turn to next? Run Biden again? It almost has to be someone we haven't really seen much of yet to run against DeSantis (or Trump again). The right has no problem pushing it's agendas. Meanwhile, the left either falls to the middle when challenged or goes so far left that they drive voters to the right. It's always easier to win with fear and reverting to the past than with progress and sacrifice. Where's Kamala? Non existent and stands no chance as the lead on a ticket. With at 79 yo Biden, that was poor planning. No chance any democrat beats Trump or Desabtis. Like I said. D's blew it. Which vice choice would've been much better though? They all were flawed.
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Post by samadams10 on Jul 7, 2022 12:45:25 GMT -8
Where's Kamala? Non existent and stands no chance as the lead on a ticket. With at 79 yo Biden, that was poor planning. No chance any democrat beats Trump or Desabtis. Like I said. D's blew it. Which vice choice would've been much better though? They all were flawed. Anybody but Harris. All politicians are flawed. Need to find the least flawed one.
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Post by shopson67 on Jul 8, 2022 8:08:20 GMT -8
Which vice choice would've been much better though? They all were flawed. Anybody but Harris. All politicians are flawed. Need to find the least flawed one. Broke two barriers/glass ceilings, but ultimately has not worked thus far.
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Post by samadams10 on Jul 8, 2022 19:18:18 GMT -8
Anybody but Harris. All politicians are flawed. Need to find the least flawed one. Broke two barriers/glass ceilings, but ultimately has not worked thus far. Unfortunately the other side uses breaking barriers to their advantage by flaming the fire on white grievances and how their country is being taken away from them. Trump capitalized on this and will continue to do so.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jul 9, 2022 7:55:28 GMT -8
Roe v Wade was based on a lie and never should have gone to the Supreme Court in the first place. Jane Roe (Norma McCorvey) was a white woman pregnant with her 3rd child. She supposedly wanted an abortion in Texas which was illegal so she claimed she was gang raped by a group of Black men. After the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Roe she gave birth to the child. She later stated the she lied about being gang raped by a group of Black men. Her baby was white. The court has over turned a decision that was based on a lie. This must be settled in the Congress.
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Post by history2b on Jul 9, 2022 9:09:47 GMT -8
Roe v Wade was based on a lie and never should have gone to the Supreme Court in the first place. Jane Roe (Norma McCorvey) was a white woman pregnant with her 3rd child. She supposedly wanted an abortion in Texas which was illegal so she claimed she was gang raped by a group of Black men. After the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Roe she gave birth to the child. She later stated the she lied about being gang raped by a group of Black men. Her baby was white. The court has over turned a decision that was based on a lie. This must be settled in the Congress. Lol. See what mental skull fucking looks like.
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Post by hackashaq on Jul 9, 2022 12:42:17 GMT -8
Roe v Wade was based on a lie and never should have gone to the Supreme Court in the first place. Jane Roe (Norma McCorvey) was a white woman pregnant with her 3rd child. She supposedly wanted an abortion in Texas which was illegal so she claimed she was gang raped by a group of Black men. After the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Roe she gave birth to the child. She later stated the she lied about being gang raped by a group of Black men. Her baby was white. The court has over turned a decision that was based on a lie. This must be settled in the Congress. My god. You’re joking right? This is right out of the right wing, Frank Luntz Republican playbook manifesto designed to rile up Americans to think anything slightly to the left of Gengis Khan is Stalinist Communism. Another thing though. Let’s say what you said it all true. You would still deny a grown woman to control her own body? A lie justifies the removal of a basic human right, reproductive rights? Make no mistake, the Right is using this as a springboard to eliminate all reproductive rights, like the right to contraception, the right to privacy in your own home, sodomy laws etc. Substantive Due Process was the basis for striking down miscegenation laws, as well as removing the concept that private contract could overrule a citizen’s constitutional rights (minimum wage laws, labor employment rules on overtime, mandatory breaks, etc are based in Substantive Due Process rulings). So your purported lie is justification to denigrate the rule that arguably allows you to live the life you are choosing to live? IF she lied….big IF….it’s because she was being denied her basic human right, which was one of the reasons Roe v Wade was decided the way it was. Some rights are self-evident, statute or not, and the courts job is to interpret the intent of the Constitution, not be a slave (pardon the pun) to a written document put together by a bunch of white, male, landowners and slave owners nearly 250 years ago. I’m sure the Constitution doesn’t have a clause in there for lies spread over the Internet and free speech, but I was hoping we could rely on learned judges to help us with the interpretation.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jul 9, 2022 14:10:18 GMT -8
Roe v Wade was based on a lie and never should have gone to the Supreme Court in the first place. Jane Roe (Norma McCorvey) was a white woman pregnant with her 3rd child. She supposedly wanted an abortion in Texas which was illegal so she claimed she was gang raped by a group of Black men. After the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Roe she gave birth to the child. She later stated the she lied about being gang raped by a group of Black men. Her baby was white. The court has over turned a decision that was based on a lie. This must be settled in the Congress. My god. You’re joking right? This is right out of the right wing, Frank Luntz Republican playbook manifesto designed to rile up Americans to think anything slightly to the left of Gengis Khan is Stalinist Communism. Another thing though. Let’s say what you said it all true. You would still deny a grown woman to control her own body? A lie justifies the removal of a basic human right, reproductive rights? Make no mistake, the Right is using this as a springboard to eliminate all reproductive rights, like the right to contraception, the right to privacy in your own home, sodomy laws etc. Substantive Due Process was the basis for striking down miscegenation laws, as well as removing the concept that private contract could overrule a citizen’s constitutional rights (minimum wage laws, labor employment rules on overtime, mandatory breaks, etc are based in Substantive Due Process rulings). So your purported lie is justification to denigrate the rule that arguably allows you to live the life you are choosing to live? IF she lied….big IF….it’s because she was being denied her basic human right, which was one of the reasons Roe v Wade was decided the way it was. Some rights are self-evident, statute or not, and the courts job is to interpret the intent of the Constitution, not be a slave (pardon the pun) to a written document put together by a bunch of white, male, landowners and slave owners nearly 250 years ago. I’m sure the Constitution doesn’t have a clause in there for lies spread over the Internet and free speech, but I was hoping we could rely on learned judges to help us with the interpretation. What ever your belief is on abortion it doesn’t take away from the fact that Roe v Wade should have never gone to the Supreme Court. You can do your own research on Norma McCorvey and Roe v Wade lie.
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Post by history2b on Jul 9, 2022 14:19:26 GMT -8
The grounds for Roe vs Wade have not been proven to be based on a lie, that’s just moron talk from a chimp brained cultist.
The internet is awash with nonsense and shit for brains morons are the ones who run around pawning off political motivated conspiracies as truth.
Keep deep throating that orange powdered dick gimp boy.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jul 9, 2022 14:46:04 GMT -8
The grounds for Roe vs Wade have not been proven to be based on a lie, that’s just moron talk from a chimp brained cultist. The internet is awash with nonsense and shit for brains morons are the ones who run around pawning off political motivated conspiracies as truth. Keep deep throating that orange powdered dick gimp boy. Go do your research you senile old soy boy. Jane Roe ( Norma McCorvey) lied. She stated so. If someone is convicted in court based on someone’s testimony and is found to be a lie, what should happen to the person convicted. Should the ruling be overturned soy boy?
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Post by history2b on Jul 9, 2022 15:09:13 GMT -8
The grounds for Roe vs Wade have not been proven to be based on a lie, that’s just moron talk from a chimp brained cultist. The internet is awash with nonsense and shit for brains morons are the ones who run around pawning off political motivated conspiracies as truth. Keep deep throating that orange powdered dick gimp boy. Go do your research you senile old soy boy. Jane Roe ( Norma McCorvey) lied. She stated so. If someone is convicted in court based on someone’s testimony and is found to be a lie, what should happen to the person convicted. Should the ruling be overturned soy boy? Except the case was not overturned, the Supreme Court did not dismiss the case based on these superficial grounds like you are claiming. This is literally a rationale put out by political operatives to make chimp brained morons like you go out and repeat the claims. Hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jul 9, 2022 15:24:55 GMT -8
Go do your research you senile old soy boy. Jane Roe ( Norma McCorvey) lied. She stated so. If someone is convicted in court based on someone’s testimony and is found to be a lie, what should happen to the person convicted. Should the ruling be overturned soy boy? Except the case was not overturned, the Supreme Court did not dismiss the case based on these superficial grounds like you are claiming. This is literally a rationale put out by political operatives to make chimp brained morons like you go out and repeat the claims. Hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot. I didn’t say it was dismissed, I stated it was overturned you senile wimp! It’s an issue that will be voted on.
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Post by history2b on Jul 9, 2022 15:38:30 GMT -8
Except the case was not overturned, the Supreme Court did not dismiss the case based on these superficial grounds like you are claiming. This is literally a rationale put out by political operatives to make chimp brained morons like you go out and repeat the claims. Hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot. I didn’t say it was dismissed, I stated it was overturned you senile wimp! It’s an issue that will be voted on. I know what you said you illiterate twit, you used a false dilemma fallacy to conflate the false testimony of a plaintiff to mean the overturning of a landmark case was justified. But whether Roe was ever raped was never the subject of the case that either Texas state or the Supreme Court ever ruled in 1973 or now. You’re just hooting a propaganda line over and over that has no relevancy in the matter at all because you’re a fucking idiot chimp. Hoot hoot hoot hoot.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jul 9, 2022 15:54:43 GMT -8
I didn’t say it was dismissed, I stated it was overturned you senile wimp! It’s an issue that will be voted on. I know what you said you illiterate twit, you used a false dilemma fallacy to conflate the false testimony of a plaintiff to mean the overturning of a landmark case was justified. But whether Roe was ever raped was never the subject of the case that either Texas state or the Supreme Court ever ruled in 1973 or now. You’re just hooting a propaganda line over and over that has no relevancy in the matter at all because you’re a fucking idiot chimp. Hoot hoot hoot hoot. Did she or didn’t she lie that she was gang raped by a group of Black men?
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Post by samadams10 on Jul 9, 2022 16:01:24 GMT -8
Roe v Wade was based on a lie and never should have gone to the Supreme Court in the first place. Jane Roe (Norma McCorvey) was a white woman pregnant with her 3rd child. She supposedly wanted an abortion in Texas which was illegal so she claimed she was gang raped by a group of Black men. After the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Roe she gave birth to the child. She later stated the she lied about being gang raped by a group of Black men. Her baby was white. The court has over turned a decision that was based on a lie. This must be settled in the Congress. Lol. See what mental skull fucking looks like. Omg rofl. Wow.
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Post by history2b on Jul 9, 2022 16:16:42 GMT -8
I know what you said you illiterate twit, you used a false dilemma fallacy to conflate the false testimony of a plaintiff to mean the overturning of a landmark case was justified. But whether Roe was ever raped was never the subject of the case that either Texas state or the Supreme Court ever ruled in 1973 or now. You’re just hooting a propaganda line over and over that has no relevancy in the matter at all because you’re a fucking idiot chimp. Hoot hoot hoot hoot. Did she or didn’t she lie that she was gang raped by a group of Black men? Not relevant to the case, never affected what the courts were deciding 49 years ago or now. Hence why repeating that makes you a chimp brained moron who’s been skull fucked into oblivion.
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Post by lakerfan1980 on Jul 9, 2022 16:19:02 GMT -8
Did she or didn’t she lie that she was gang raped by a group of Black men? Not relevant to the case, never affected what the courts were deciding 49 years ago or now. Hence why repeating that makes you a chimp brained moron who’s been skull fucked into oblivion. You are a fucking idiot. You MFs don’t even know or want to know what Roe v Wade was. Lol
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Post by history2b on Jul 9, 2022 16:25:25 GMT -8
Not relevant to the case, never affected what the courts were deciding 49 years ago or now. Hence why repeating that makes you a chimp brained moron who’s been skull fucked into oblivion. You are a fucking idiot. You MFs don’t even know or want to know what Roe v Wade was. Lol From a legal standpoint Roe vs Wade was always about patient / doctor relation in regards to privacy. It was not, is not and will never be about rape. Hence the legal language from the court in 73 and now. Chimp brained morons who’ve been skull fucked by religious propaganda can hoot and holler all they want. Hoot hoot hoot.
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Post by hackashaq on Jul 9, 2022 17:14:20 GMT -8
Rape whether it happened or not was not the issue raised in Roe v Wade. I have no idea there are people here talking about rape or lies.
Supreme Court said there is a substantive due process right in a woman having control over her own reproductive process, that right was based on the fundamental right of privacy as interpreted from the Due Process clause of the 14th Amendment
It wasn’t a special “rape” clause. There is no such thing.
Even the original Texas law made exceptions to the prohibition on abortions in the cases where a woman’s health was at stake. Some of the new trigger laws don’t even allow for that.
Let’s stop with the “lie” talk, and rape or no rape. That is not, and never was, the basis of the ruling.
Also, let’s be real. The straw man arguments being made here are exactly the tactics that get otherwise rational people to think that a child prostitution ring was being run by Hilary Clinton from a pizza shop.
These are statements made to deflect from the real issues at hand.
If a woman doesn’t have the right to control her own reproductive rights, then we have no fundamental right to privacy….in our homes, in our bodies, who we marry, who we have sex with, whether we are forced to work in inhumane and unfair work conditions, whether we decide to wear a condom, take a birth control pill, or even get fixed.
I couldn’t give a damn about anything else because this is at stake. If you don’t believe me, read Justice Thomas’s concurrence.
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Post by history2b on Jul 9, 2022 17:39:42 GMT -8
It’s not that complicated hack, people with limited capacity to understand things take superficial technical truths and cling to them to erroneously use their selective “truth” as evidence for their claims.
To a simpleton, if Jane Roe “lied” about rape then the entire case is invalid. The courts didn’t rule that but to the chimp, it is truth.
Because that’s how little they understand and more importantly that’s all they want to know. You can’t reason or ration with people like that. They’ve been skull fucked into a delusional reality and that’s all that matters to them.
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