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Post by samadams10 on Aug 17, 2022 16:37:57 GMT -8
So 8 out if the 10 house Republicans who voted to impeach Trump are booted out. That's what you get in politics for doing the right thing. Liz Cheney, the most vocal anti trump R got her ass handed to her. That's how much of a stranglehold he has on the Rs. Time is running out for the Ds to save democracy. Btw the Feds abandoned purchasing COVID vaccines. We're on our own after the next booster campaign. Down with the socialism of free vaccines. Another Democrat win on COVID. What Biden admin has decided on Covid is beyond tragic. Leaving it to the private insurance companies to markup the cost of the vaccine to increase profit in a system where a significant portion of the population has no health insurance. This is why the Democratic Party will die. Exactly. It's horrible. It was bad enough to vaccinate Americans? Try now. Both these parties and their ideologies need to die. We need a fresh start. Won't happen.
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Post by history2b on Aug 17, 2022 16:46:57 GMT -8
What Biden admin has decided on Covid is beyond tragic. Leaving it to the private insurance companies to markup the cost of the vaccine to increase profit in a system where a significant portion of the population has no health insurance. This is why the Democratic Party will die. Exactly. It's horrible. It was bad enough to vaccinate Americans? Try now. Both these parties and their ideologies need to die. We need a fresh start. Won't happen. It makes no sense whatsoever. I think both parties are on the fritz but these things I’m learning play out over longer periods than individuals can clearly see. The dissatisfaction with the Democrats would be more pronounced if it weren’t for Trump. He keeps people choosing between allow his takeover and the incompetent Dems. People in America don’t vote for their interests they vote against the people they hate. That’s part of the sadistic nature of inverted totalitarianism.
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 17, 2022 17:02:33 GMT -8
Exactly. It's horrible. It was bad enough to vaccinate Americans? Try now. Both these parties and their ideologies need to die. We need a fresh start. Won't happen. It makes no sense whatsoever. I think both parties are on the fritz but these things I’m learning play out over longer periods than individuals can clearly see. The dissatisfaction with the Democrats would be more pronounced if it weren’t for Trump. He keeps people choosing between allow his takeover and the incompetent Dems. People in America don’t vote for their interests they vote against the people they hate. That’s part of the sadistic nature of invented totalitarianism. I don't even know if people in America understand their own interests. A toothless hick from back country with 20 bucks to his name thinks he's Rich and votes Republican so they won't raise his taxes. Agreed - Biden won only because of how horrendous trump was. He was full of scandal. Democrats are praying trump runs again but trump bad choose me argument may fail this time. These upcoming midterms will be telling.
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Post by history2b on Aug 17, 2022 17:33:07 GMT -8
It makes no sense whatsoever. I think both parties are on the fritz but these things I’m learning play out over longer periods than individuals can clearly see. The dissatisfaction with the Democrats would be more pronounced if it weren’t for Trump. He keeps people choosing between allow his takeover and the incompetent Dems. People in America don’t vote for their interests they vote against the people they hate. That’s part of the sadistic nature of invented totalitarianism. I don't even know if people in America understand their own interests. A toothless hick from back country with 20 bucks to his name thinks he's Rich and votes Republican so they won't raise his taxes. Agreed - Biden won only because of how horrendous trump was. He was full of scandal. Democrats are praying trump runs again but trump bad choose me argument may fail this time. These upcoming midterms will be telling. Yes they are playing with fire and if it backfires, that’s it, they’re done but so is the country. It will be the great reset with a reckoning to be dealt with as climate catastrophes plague the country over the next several decades. Like I said many times there are only 3 political choices in theory; Fascism Neoliberal Centrism Socialism When the country flirted with Socialism before it led to the president being elected 4 times in a row. Big Capital hated it and have spent 80 years undoing it in the form of culture wars and abortion bullshit and feigning a border crisis while simultaneously exploiting illegal immigrants. They’ve created a very real backlash against taxation because the people pay most of their taxes towards military adventurism and internal police state more than anything else. So when 60 cents on every dollar they take from you goes to that you’d think people would question that payment system but the state made sure to spend an enormous effort properly indoctrinating the people to love and worship the war machine; hang a flag, endlessly thank troops for their service, countless holidays oriented around the concept of war and its participants. You don’t see anything like this anywhere else in the world. In Britain I’ve seen some levels of this but nothing even close to what it’s like here. If taxes were redistributed towards social causes; health care , infrastructure, education etc and away from Haliburton and Raytheon you would see sweeping support from the poor whites in the South and Appalachia as well as traditional Democratic voters. But the system won’t allow it. It works very hard to keep these people under the spell of unfettered war capitalism.
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 17, 2022 19:18:56 GMT -8
I don't even know if people in America understand their own interests. A toothless hick from back country with 20 bucks to his name thinks he's Rich and votes Republican so they won't raise his taxes. Agreed - Biden won only because of how horrendous trump was. He was full of scandal. Democrats are praying trump runs again but trump bad choose me argument may fail this time. These upcoming midterms will be telling. Yes they are playing with fire and if it backfires, that’s it, they’re done but so is the country. It will be the great reset with a reckoning to be dealt with as climate catastrophes plague the country over the next several decades. Like I said many times there are only 3 political choices in theory; Fascism Neoliberal Centrism Socialism When the country flirted with Socialism before it led to the president being elected 4 times in a row. Big Capital hated it and have spent 80 years undoing it in the form of culture wars and abortion bullshit and feigning a border crisis while simultaneously exploiting illegal immigrants. They’ve created a very real backlash against taxation because the people pay most of their taxes towards military adventurism and internal police state more than anything else. So when 60 cents on every dollar they take from you goes to that you’d think people would question that payment system but the state made sure to spend an enormous effort properly indoctrinating the people to love and worship the war machine; hang a flag, endlessly thank troops for their service, countless holidays oriented around the concept of war and its participants. You don’t see anything like this anywhere else in the world. In Britain I’ve seen some levels of this but nothing even close to what it’s like here. If taxes were redistributed towards social causes; health care , infrastructure, education etc and away from Haliburton and Raytheon you would see sweeping support from the poor whites in the South and Appalachia as well as traditional Democratic voters. But the system won’t allow it. It works very hard to keep these people under the spell of unfettered war capitalism. Unfettered war capitalism is sickening. The whole premise is based on destruction. What would you say is a country with a model economy, if any, at this point in time? Keep hearing of Denmark, Norway, and other Nordic countries countries top this list.
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Post by history2b on Aug 17, 2022 19:48:59 GMT -8
Yes they are playing with fire and if it backfires, that’s it, they’re done but so is the country. It will be the great reset with a reckoning to be dealt with as climate catastrophes plague the country over the next several decades. Like I said many times there are only 3 political choices in theory; Fascism Neoliberal Centrism Socialism When the country flirted with Socialism before it led to the president being elected 4 times in a row. Big Capital hated it and have spent 80 years undoing it in the form of culture wars and abortion bullshit and feigning a border crisis while simultaneously exploiting illegal immigrants. They’ve created a very real backlash against taxation because the people pay most of their taxes towards military adventurism and internal police state more than anything else. So when 60 cents on every dollar they take from you goes to that you’d think people would question that payment system but the state made sure to spend an enormous effort properly indoctrinating the people to love and worship the war machine; hang a flag, endlessly thank troops for their service, countless holidays oriented around the concept of war and its participants. You don’t see anything like this anywhere else in the world. In Britain I’ve seen some levels of this but nothing even close to what it’s like here. If taxes were redistributed towards social causes; health care , infrastructure, education etc and away from Haliburton and Raytheon you would see sweeping support from the poor whites in the South and Appalachia as well as traditional Democratic voters. But the system won’t allow it. It works very hard to keep these people under the spell of unfettered war capitalism. Unfettered war capitalism is sickening. The whole premise is based on destruction. What would you say is a country with a model economy, if any, at this point in time? Keep hearing of Denmark, Norway, and other Nordic countries countries top this list. Germany actually gets a lot right imo. It’s a beautiful country and you won’t see those toothless poverty stricken peasants in the countryside like you do here. Not will you see militant types like here either. The Nordic countries get a lot of the attention, rightfully so, in this regard but interestingly Sweden is changing rapidly from the inside right now with strong movements to privatize various elements of society and a neoconservative movement to undo their decades long run of strong socialist backing. But the other side of the world has some impressive examples as well; Taiwan has an outstanding economy, obviously produces the worlds best microchips that the entire world is now dependent on due to the cyber techno revolution of the 21st century. Singapore also has a strong economy but no country on earth has made more strides economically in the past 2-3 decades than China. “But communism fails” is only another imperial propaganda talking point that always avoids confronting its role in how communism has failed thus far and offers no legitimate response as to why China isn’t failing and on the contrary is kicking our ass right now in terms of growing an economy. And they’re poised to takeover much of the economic development of the world through the 21st century. Their Belt and Road initiative has created allies throughout Asia, the Middle East, Europe and Africa. This infrastructure initiative will build routes to move commodities between nations that haven’t existed before. The US has been trying to slow down this process but the overall shift is inevitable. It didn’t have to be this way but we serve the wealthiest here as a primacy of policy. That obviously will only go so far, just like Marx said 150 years ago.
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 17, 2022 21:01:03 GMT -8
Unfettered war capitalism is sickening. The whole premise is based on destruction. What would you say is a country with a model economy, if any, at this point in time? Keep hearing of Denmark, Norway, and other Nordic countries countries top this list. Germany actually gets a lot right imo. It’s a beautiful country and you won’t see those toothless poverty stricken peasants in the countryside like you do here. The Nordic countries get a lot of the attention, rightfully so, in this regard but interestingly Sweden is changing rapidly from the inside right now with strong movements to privatize various elements of society and a neoconservative movement to undo their decades long run of strong socialist backing. But the other side of the world has some impressive examples as well; Taiwan has an outstanding economy, obviously produces the worlds best microchips that the entire world is now dependent on due to the cyber techno revolution of the 21st century. Singapore also has a strong economy but no country on earth has made more strides economically in the past 2-3 decades than China. “But communism fails” is only another imperial propaganda talking point that always avoids confronting its role in how communism has failed thus far and offers no legitimate response as to why China isn’t failing and on the contrary is kicking our ass right now in terms of growing an economy. And they’re poised to takeover much of the economic development of the world through the 21st century. Their Belt and Road initiative has created allies throughout Asia, the Middle East, Europe and Africa. This infrastructure initiative will build routes to move commodities between nations that haven’t existed before. The US has been trying to slow down this process but the overall shift is inevitable. It didn’t have to be this way but we serve the wealthiest here as a primacy of policy. That obviously will only go so far, just like Marx said 150 years ago. Yep Germany definitely gets it right. Can't argue with Taiwan and Singapore either. China definitely pulled hundreds of millions out of poverty through their economic policies. I'm sure there are downsides of communism too though. Tianneman Square situation comes to mind. Dissent of any kind os crushed swiftly. Consolidating power in the hands of the few would lead to abuse in some way shape or form. No system is perfect I suppose.
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Post by lakeshow on Aug 18, 2022 7:44:51 GMT -8
Trump's CFO for the Trump Organization just pleaded guilty to tax evasion for 15 years in court today.
Trump has managed to get away with so much, but this just might actually have real traction to do him and others around him some harm.
I want to see this cockroach in prison so bad....
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Post by lakeshow on Aug 18, 2022 7:46:18 GMT -8
On another note, there's a pretty good article on CNN about how tourism has actually harmed native Hawaiians with all the sense of entitlement that people who tour Hawaii have.
People over there are on strict water rations and are punished severely if they use more water than allowed. Tourists on the other hand are consuming water like there' no drought over there.....
The dark side of capitalism....
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 18, 2022 8:31:17 GMT -8
On another note, there's a pretty good article on CNN about how tourism has actually harmed native Hawaiians with all the sense of entitlement that people who tour Hawaii have. People over there are on strict water rations and are punished severely if they use more water than allowed. Tourists on the other hand are consuming water like there' no drought over there..... The dark side of capitalism.... Saw that too. Awful. No wonder the natives have had a long history of resustence. The tourists are overrunning the islands. I saw a report where people had to show up at Maui airport in Kahului 5 hrs before departure as lines snaked outside the terminal on driveways. The Stage can put limits on entry to manage resources but the airlines and hotel lobbies would never allow it. The natives suffer. Absolutely pitfall of unchecked capitalism.
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Post by lakeshow on Aug 18, 2022 8:39:24 GMT -8
On another note, there's a pretty good article on CNN about how tourism has actually harmed native Hawaiians with all the sense of entitlement that people who tour Hawaii have. People over there are on strict water rations and are punished severely if they use more water than allowed. Tourists on the other hand are consuming water like there' no drought over there..... The dark side of capitalism.... Saw that too. Awful. No wonder the natives have had a long history of resustence. The tourists are overrunning the islands. I saw a report where people had to show up at Maui airport in Kahului 5 hrs before departure as lines snaked outside the terminal on driveways. The Stage can put limits on entry to manage resources but the airlines and hotel lobbies would never allow it. The natives suffer. Absolutely pitfall of unchecked capitalism. Definitely Sammy Hawaii's history of colonialism is pretty ugly and scandalous too. Native Hawaiian's are treated like "nobody's" on their island. This goes back to 1898 beginning with Sanford Dole who got his corporation started by exploitation. American capitalism, colonialism, and imperialism.
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 18, 2022 9:04:14 GMT -8
Trump's CFO for the Trump Organization just pleaded guilty to tax evasion for 15 years in court today. Trump has managed to get away with so much, but this just might actually have real traction to do him and others around him some harm. I want to see this cockroach in prison so bad.... I'm still skeptical that anything will come of it. There's not a history of presidents going to jail or getting in much hot water. There's always an immunity of sorts. It's possible that the DOJ negotiates with him to not run for office again in exchange for leniency. Closest is Nixon who resigned only because his party turned on him and Ford pardoned him. This R party of this timeline is a cult and will never turn on him. He must be wishing hard that the Rs take back house and Senate in Nov. If that happens plus a R president in 2024, there's no chance he pays a price. In fact he will be back wreaking havoc. If Musk ultimately buys twitter, he will be back on it too.
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 18, 2022 9:07:41 GMT -8
Saw that too. Awful. No wonder the natives have had a long history of resustence. The tourists are overrunning the islands. I saw a report where people had to show up at Maui airport in Kahului 5 hrs before departure as lines snaked outside the terminal on driveways. The Stage can put limits on entry to manage resources but the airlines and hotel lobbies would never allow it. The natives suffer. Absolutely pitfall of unchecked capitalism. Definitely Sammy Hawaii's history of colonialism is pretty ugly and scandalous too. Native Hawaiian's are treated like "nobody's" on their island. This goes back to 1898 beginning with Sanford Dole who got his corporation started by exploitation. American capitalism, colonialism, and imperialism. Wow I was not aware of the Sanford Dole history. I guess Dole eventually expanded to other countries on the back of the native Hawaiians. Their banana farms are huge in the Philippines One of the vintage shows that I enjoy is Hawaii Five O classic. There are several episodes that show the natives struggles and treatment in the 60s and 70s.
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 18, 2022 9:12:49 GMT -8
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Post by lakeshow on Aug 18, 2022 9:17:54 GMT -8
Trump's CFO for the Trump Organization just pleaded guilty to tax evasion for 15 years in court today. Trump has managed to get away with so much, but this just might actually have real traction to do him and others around him some harm. I want to see this cockroach in prison so bad.... I'm still skeptical that anything will come of it. There's not a history of presidents going to jail or getting in much hot water. There's always an immunity of sorts. It's possible that the DOJ negotiates with him to not run for office again in exchange for leniency. Closest is Nixon who resigned only because his party turned on him and Ford pardoned him. This R party of this timeline is a cult and will never turn on him. He must be wishing hard that the Rs take back house and Senate in Nov. If that happens plus a R president in 2024, there's no chance he pays a price. In fact he will be back wreaking havoc. If Musk ultimately buys twitter, he will be back on it too. Yeah, it's been very hard to put this guy away, so I understand the skepticism. My second hope, and probably more realistic hope is that by the time we're done with all these investigations, he'll be so toxic and radioactive that he won't be electable anymore--not even to the majority of Republicans. Suck all his energies out of him through litigation that he won't have the time, energy, or enthusiasm to wage another political campaign.
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Post by lakeshow on Aug 18, 2022 9:20:57 GMT -8
Definitely Sammy Hawaii's history of colonialism is pretty ugly and scandalous too. Native Hawaiian's are treated like "nobody's" on their island. This goes back to 1898 beginning with Sanford Dole who got his corporation started by exploitation. American capitalism, colonialism, and imperialism. Wow I was not aware of the Sanford Dole history. I guess Dole eventually expanded to other countries on the back of the native Hawaiians. Their banana farms are huge in the Philippines One of the vintage shows that I enjoy is Hawaii Five O classic. There are several episodes that show the natives struggles and treatment in the 60s and 70s. Yeah, started his pineapple corporation there. It's why I don't buy Dole products. If you even mention the name Dole to many native Hawaiians, they seethe in anger.
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Post by lakeshow on Aug 18, 2022 9:22:55 GMT -8
Hilarious
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 18, 2022 9:48:19 GMT -8
I'm still skeptical that anything will come of it. There's not a history of presidents going to jail or getting in much hot water. There's always an immunity of sorts. It's possible that the DOJ negotiates with him to not run for office again in exchange for leniency. Closest is Nixon who resigned only because his party turned on him and Ford pardoned him. This R party of this timeline is a cult and will never turn on him. He must be wishing hard that the Rs take back house and Senate in Nov. If that happens plus a R president in 2024, there's no chance he pays a price. In fact he will be back wreaking havoc. If Musk ultimately buys twitter, he will be back on it too. Yeah, it's been very hard to put this guy away, so I understand the skepticism. My second hope, and probably more realistic hope is that by the time we're done with all these investigations, he'll be so toxic and radioactive that he won't be electable anymore--not even to the majority of Republicans. Suck all his energies out of him through litigation that he won't have the time, energy, or enthusiasm to wage another political campaign. Would you believe man, that he quickly find raised a million bucks for his PAC taking advantage of the raid? There are also reports of his base digging their heals in. theweek.com/donald-trump/1015989/trump-supporters-have-received-more-than-100-fundraising-emails-since-mar-a
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 18, 2022 9:49:44 GMT -8
Wow I was not aware of the Sanford Dole history. I guess Dole eventually expanded to other countries on the back of the native Hawaiians. Their banana farms are huge in the Philippines One of the vintage shows that I enjoy is Hawaii Five O classic. There are several episodes that show the natives struggles and treatment in the 60s and 70s. Yeah, started his pineapple corporation there. It's why I don't buy Dole products. If you even mention the name Dole to many native Hawaiians, they seethe in anger. Interesting. Had no idea
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Post by samadams10 on Aug 18, 2022 15:30:14 GMT -8
No money for vaccines but lookey here. Need more proof of unfettered war capitalism? Sickening.
Biden administration readies about $800 million in additional security aid for Ukraine -sources
ttps://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-administration-readies-800-million-220907385.html
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