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Post by lakeshow on Jul 2, 2023 12:27:40 GMT -8
What are your thoughts about how the Lakers did on the draft and in free agency thus far?
Honestly, I don't know anything about the players we drafted and much at all about who we signed other than Gabe Vincent.
Happy re-signed Rui and Reaves though.
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Post by history2b on Jul 2, 2023 15:21:22 GMT -8
I think we did pretty well overall. FO seemed to have a very thought out strategy. Rui and Reaves being treated like must keeps may seem like no brainers but we’ve seen the FO make dumb mistakes in the past that were no brainers.
They retained both, Reaves particularly on a low scale deal which is a win for the FO, loss for Austin. Then they also negotiated D’Angelo down to almost half the rate he was paid last season; huge win.
They dumped the garbage, Beasley and Bamba and replaced both with solid cheap alternatives. More wins.
I don’t know a lot about either draft pick but I’m excited to see a bit of them both in Summer league. I think positionally speaking both were solid vetted targets. Big scoring PG and long rangy wing… both look like archetypes of the modern game.
Overall B+ from me.
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Post by history2b on Jul 2, 2023 16:38:18 GMT -8
My ideal summer would have been retaining all the guys we did plus adding Naz Reid at center then retaining Dennis as the backup.
I did not expect to get Taurean Prince, Jaxson Hayes or Cam Reddish. Sure none were premier free agents but they were all excellent bargain FA pickups. All around the league teams, writers lauded our activity on day 1 of FA.
Other teams are now left taking the scraps of what we left out there at all price ranges.
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Post by chiefsdodgerslakers24 on Jul 2, 2023 17:15:58 GMT -8
I said B- on another thread but I really have to reserve judgement until the season starts. I just saw the biggest problem with the team last year being the rebounding. AD often got switched onto guys on the perimeter and not a damn other person on the team was good at boxing out or rebounding. I just saw a lot of players ball watching and not crashing the boards or putting a body on the other team that crashed the boards. There were even stretches AD didn't box out or rebound well. It would've been nice to get a center and a couple forwards that can go get rebounds. It's why I sorely missed a guy like Kyle Kuzma.
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Post by history2b on Jul 2, 2023 17:20:58 GMT -8
I said B- on another thread but I really have to reserve judgement until the season starts. I just saw the biggest problem with the team last year being the rebounding. AD often got switched onto guys on the perimeter and not a damn other person on the team was good at boxing out or rebounding. I just saw a lot of players ball watching and not crashing the boards or putting a body on the other team that crashed the boards. There were even stretches AD didn't box out or rebound well. It would've been nice to get a center and a couple forwards that can go get rebounds. It's why I sorely missed a guy like Kyle Kuzma. The rebounding point you make is valid but also can be addressed with coaching. Look at Miami for example. Smallest team in the playoffs and they beat down team after bigger team because they collectively had to rebound. That said there wasn’t a lot of ways to address that hole given the free agent market and cap restrictions. I’m sure Gabe Vincent will get criticized a lot during the season for not being a savior player and being the biggest signee. But what I like about him over Dennis is that his shooting from deep seemed to be more threatening than Dennis. They’re both scrappy and I wouldn’t have been mad to see Dennis return but only if we used on the MLE on that physical big I thought we lacked most.
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Post by odogg on Jul 2, 2023 20:12:06 GMT -8
I think we did pretty well overall. FO seemed to have a very thought out strategy. Rui and Reaves being treated like must keeps may seem like no brainers but we’ve seen the FO make dumb mistakes in the past that were no brainers. They retained both, Reaves particularly on a low scale deal which is a win for the FO, loss for Austin. Then they also negotiated D’Angelo down to almost half the rate he was paid last season; huge win. They dumped the garbage, Beasley and Bamba and replaced both with solid cheap alternatives. More wins. I don’t know a lot about either draft pick but I’m excited to see a bit of them both in Summer league. I think positionally speaking both were solid vetted targets. Big scoring PG and long rangy wing… both look like archetypes of the modern game. Overall B+ from me. I am still hearing Mo or Beas mentioned as in play lol.
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Post by hackashaq on Jul 2, 2023 20:14:14 GMT -8
Suns picked up Gordon on a 2 year deal.
So the Suns are trying to add depth to their team, but I'm wondering where they are from a luxury tax perspective.
If they are going to keep Ayton, then it's gonna be steep no?
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Post by odogg on Jul 2, 2023 20:55:23 GMT -8
Suns picked up Gordon on a 2 year deal. So the Suns are trying to add depth to their team, but I'm wondering where they are from a luxury tax perspective. If they are going to keep Ayton, then it's gonna be steep no? It will be steep with Ayton and also if they trade him. They are all in.
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Post by history2b on Jul 2, 2023 21:05:41 GMT -8
Suns picked up Gordon on a 2 year deal. So the Suns are trying to add depth to their team, but I'm wondering where they are from a luxury tax perspective. If they are going to keep Ayton, then it's gonna be steep no? I’m positive that they’re only holding onto Ayton because they can’t unload him. They’d move him in a heartbeat for a better fit but who wants to pay Deandre Ayton $32.4M now then another 70M in the future? If he can’t help KD Booker and another star who can take him and succeed? For that kind of financial commitment. They need depth but Ayton is overpaid by double compared to his worth.
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Post by argentina1986 on Jul 3, 2023 15:22:53 GMT -8
Good overall but Can Darvin Ham lead us to a ring?
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Post by lakeshow on Jul 3, 2023 15:32:06 GMT -8
Good overall but Can Darvin Ham lead us to a ring? No
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jul 3, 2023 19:41:50 GMT -8
Good overall but Can Darvin Ham lead us to a ring? Not this past seasons Rookie Ham. Only hope is that he's learned alot. He just added Demarre Carroll to the coaching staff from Milwaukee. Not sure if or how it will help.
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Post by odogg on Jul 4, 2023 7:24:57 GMT -8
So apparently that new backup center we got was a guy the Pels drafted in the lottery with one of the picks we gave them for AD. Lol nice.
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jul 4, 2023 7:44:46 GMT -8
So apparently that new backup center we got was a guy the Pels drafted in the lottery with one of the picks we gave them for AD. Lol nice. Not only that but we ended up with the 8th, 9th, and 10th lotto picks from that draft (Jaxson, Hachimura, Reddish). And we finished good enough this past season to deny the Pelicans a pick swap they were entitled to for much of the season. Takes some of the price off the AD trade in hindsight.
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Post by history2b on Jul 4, 2023 8:25:56 GMT -8
So apparently that new backup center we got was a guy the Pels drafted in the lottery with one of the picks we gave them for AD. Lol nice. Not only that but we ended up with the 8th, 9th, and 10th lotto picks from that draft (Jaxson, Hachimura, Reddish). And we finished good enough this past season to deny the Pelicans a pick swap they were entitled to for much of the season. Takes some of the price off the AD trade in hindsight. The crumbling of Lonzo Ball made the AD trade worthwhile alone.
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Post by odogg on Jul 4, 2023 9:02:33 GMT -8
Not only that but we ended up with the 8th, 9th, and 10th lotto picks from that draft (Jaxson, Hachimura, Reddish). And we finished good enough this past season to deny the Pelicans a pick swap they were entitled to for much of the season. Takes some of the price off the AD trade in hindsight. The crumbling of Lonzo Ball made the AD trade worthwhile alone. So in the end is it really just Ingram for AD?
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jul 4, 2023 9:28:48 GMT -8
The crumbling of Lonzo Ball made the AD trade worthwhile alone. So in the end is it really just Ingram for AD? Ingram is the only player worth mentioning today. Lonzo looked awesome in his Bulls stint before his legs started crumbling. I read a report that the Lakers still think the problems came from wearing his shitty BBB shoes.
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Post by odogg on Jul 4, 2023 9:33:43 GMT -8
So in the end is it really just Ingram for AD? Ingram is the only player worth mentioning today. Lonzo looked awesome in his Bulls stint before his legs started crumbling. I read a report that the Lakers still think the problems came from wearing his shitty BBB shoes. Looks like NO has one more pick coming from us, in 24 or they can defer to 25. As long as we take care of business the pick will be marginal.
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Post by history2b on Jul 4, 2023 11:43:32 GMT -8
The crumbling of Lonzo Ball made the AD trade worthwhile alone. So in the end is it really just Ingram for AD? For the most part
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Post by hackashaq on Jul 4, 2023 18:51:43 GMT -8
I read that Lonzo's overall process was the cause of his potential career ending injuries. Too much high impact work at too young an age and with bad form.
It made him good real early, but the body can only take so much, and crappy shoes certainly don't help.
He had to say no mas to those shoes.
But in the end some bodies can only take so much for so many years.
At the end of the day, the AD trade worked out for the Lakers in my book.
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