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Post by lakeshow on Jun 2, 2020 7:15:40 GMT -8
Indeed Sam Jan—Kobe’s death Feb, March, April, May—Pandemic May—Nationwide protests over police brutality This has been a challenging year so far. And it can get worse depending on how this pandemic plays out and certainly if the guy in the White House gets the-elected again. Something is telling me we are in for more hard times and maybe even another tragedy soon. Let's stay positive brother. Easier said than done. I understand Sam. I just can’t ignore my gut that tells me that the kind of rhetoric this president is using at this moment that something seriously bad is going to happen that will be in the history books. Everyone has a breaking point brother. Maybe the protests that we are seeing is that breaking point, but when people are murdered by police and the president continues to blame people who are hurting, people will go to any length to be heard brother. Even if it means more killing and even assassinations.
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Post by shopson67 on Jun 3, 2020 12:09:29 GMT -8
I don't know what result these protesters are trying to achieve right now. All the officers involved lost their jobs. The main offender has been brought up on charges. It will take time for his day in court. If they're waiting for Trump to acquiesce and encourage sweeping change, they're better served going door to door and getting people registered to vote and staging a work day walk out on election day, with buses arranged for those in need.
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Post by Fanofish on Jun 3, 2020 18:03:21 GMT -8
I don't know what result these protesters are trying to achieve right now. All the officers involved lost their jobs. The main offender has been brought up on charges. It will take time for his day in court. If they're waiting for Trump to acquiesce and encourage sweeping change, they're better served going door to door and getting people registered to vote and staging a work day walk out on election day, with buses arranged for those in need. Come on Shop. You’re smarter than this. I really hope these two points resonate. 1) I don’t think anyone is waiting for Trump to acquiesce. And in this case, what would Trump’s acquiescence look like? Empty. I’m pretty sure nobody is holding their breath for that. 2) There is a strong likelihood the protests, that are now forming around the globe, aren’t just about George Floyd. You’re welcome
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Post by history2b on Jun 4, 2020 15:59:39 GMT -8
I don't know what result these protesters are trying to achieve right now. All the officers involved lost their jobs. The main offender has been brought up on charges. It will take time for his day in court. If they're waiting for Trump to acquiesce and encourage sweeping change, they're better served going door to door and getting people registered to vote and staging a work day walk out on election day, with buses arranged for those in need. I don’t think anyone has organized achievements in place at this time. For the time being the message is to heard, period. There are those amongst us who don’t want to hear it now or ever. There are others who will listen but only long enough to let you know when they think you should be done speaking. Sometimes the people have to speak in the only language that monsters understand; violence. Take my statements however you will, an endorsement or simply an explanation of sociology, of anthropology. I say what I do because I know it is true. Just like MLK said, there are those more concerned with order than with justice, and that’s all that we’re seeing right now from some people. No justice no peace. The concept is not new or exclusive to the US Civil Rights movement, it’s been the crying call from people worldwide for decades.
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Post by Fanofish on Jun 6, 2020 10:56:43 GMT -8
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Post by lakeshow on Jun 18, 2020 9:32:08 GMT -8
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Post by history2b on Jun 18, 2020 19:12:21 GMT -8
A good small victory for the moment but one that can be challenged again by Trump if re-elected. Essentially the ruling was such that Trump didn’t follow procedures to properly undo a Presidential order. Surprise surprise. Because he believes he’s a monarch he foolishly thought he could just push thru his agenda but was shot down by the court. If he’s re-elected he’ll do it properly guaranteed.
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Post by lakeshow on Jun 19, 2020 9:17:58 GMT -8
A good small victory for the moment but one that can be challenged again by Trump if re-elected. Essentially the ruling was such that Trump didn’t follow procedures to properly undo a Presidential order. Surprise surprise. Because he believes he’s a monarch he foolishly thought he could just push thru his agenda but was shot down by the court. If he’s re-elected he’ll do it properly guaranteed. Correct This was just a stop gap measure. Biden must win in November, it's just as simple as that.
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Post by shopson67 on Jun 24, 2020 8:38:28 GMT -8
I don't know what result these protesters are trying to achieve right now. All the officers involved lost their jobs. The main offender has been brought up on charges. It will take time for his day in court. If they're waiting for Trump to acquiesce and encourage sweeping change, they're better served going door to door and getting people registered to vote and staging a work day walk out on election day, with buses arranged for those in need. Come on Shop. You’re smarter than this. I really hope these two points resonate. 1) I don’t think anyone is waiting for Trump to acquiesce. And in this case, what would Trump’s acquiescence look like? Empty. I’m pretty sure nobody is holding their breath for that. 2) There is a strong likelihood the protests, that are now forming around the globe, aren’t just about George Floyd. You’re welcome Take your condescension and shove it. The protests are long overdue, and this trigger of Floyd's murder is a peculiar choice to finally get people's attention, as the guilty are being dealt with. If they get off (again), then obviously that changes everything, but rioting isn't going to speed up (or improve) the justice system.
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Post by shopson67 on Jun 24, 2020 8:42:02 GMT -8
A good small victory for the moment but one that can be challenged again by Trump if re-elected. Essentially the ruling was such that Trump didn’t follow procedures to properly undo a Presidential order. Surprise surprise. Because he believes he’s a monarch he foolishly thought he could just push thru his agenda but was shot down by the court. If he’s re-elected he’ll do it properly guaranteed. If he's re-elected, the country gets what it deserves. Trump doesn't act in anyone's best interest other than his own, and occasionally the 1%. His middle America fanbase is too wrapped up in his bluster to realize that unfortunately.
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Post by Fanofish on Jun 24, 2020 21:26:28 GMT -8
Come on Shop. You’re smarter than this. I really hope these two points resonate. 1) I don’t think anyone is waiting for Trump to acquiesce. And in this case, what would Trump’s acquiescence look like? Empty. I’m pretty sure nobody is holding their breath for that. 2) There is a strong likelihood the protests, that are now forming around the globe, aren’t just about George Floyd. You’re welcome Take your condescension and shove it. The protests are long overdue, and this trigger of Floyd's murder is a peculiar choice to finally get people's attention, as the guilty are being dealt with. If they get off (again), then obviously that changes everything, but rioting isn't going to speed up (or improve) the justice system. You’re an ignorant fool.
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Post by shopson67 on Jun 25, 2020 10:53:17 GMT -8
Take your condescension and shove it. The protests are long overdue, and this trigger of Floyd's murder is a peculiar choice to finally get people's attention, as the guilty are being dealt with. If they get off (again), then obviously that changes everything, but rioting isn't going to speed up (or improve) the justice system. You’re an ignorant fool.
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Post by purpleandgold62 on Jul 1, 2020 19:38:15 GMT -8
The New York Times went "full gangsta" on Mount Rushmore.
They ran a hit piece on Mount Rushmore! First they want to cancel freedom of speech and all our statues and now they want to cancel Mount Rushmore. Unbelievable! That was the final straw for me. Tonight I re-registered to vote with the choice of party No party. The reason is because Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green and Constitution parties all currently have zero morals and shit values!
By the way, my state categorizes the following political parties the same. If you support Party for Socialism and Liberation, Alliance Party, Prohibition Party, Bread & Roses Party, Legal Marijuana Now Party, Unity Party, American Solidarity Party, Socialist Action, Socialist Equality Party, Socialist Workers Party, or Transhumanist Party you can choose Other. That's how hillbilly our voting registration is.
I seem to identify with several core values of the Alliance Party, however their candidate seems goofball-ish to me. (In 2016 he ran as a Democrat and finished 4th in the primary election behind Hillary Cliinton. In 2020 he ran as a Republican in the primary as late as March 10, 2020, but later became the first Presidential nominee of the Alliance Party on April 25, 2020. He is a critic of Trump, however.) But that's not who I want as President and I don't think his victory would be good for America.
Also I share many core values with the Unity Party. However, their candidate seems to be unvetted and pretty much unknown. I will not vote for an unknown person. I feel that is very dangerous.
The two independent candidates are Mark Charles and Joe Schriner. I am unable to find enough information on these two candidates. So these guys are unknowns to me.
I am a left leaning populist who watches The Kyle Kulinski Show and The Jimmy Dore Show for politics. Barack Obama was my favorite President in U.S. history. That being said, there is not one candidate currently running who I would vote for.
If we could have rank choice voting, I would vote 1. Andrew Yang, 2. Kamala Harris, 3. Corey Booker, 4. Pete Buttigieg, 5. Tulsi Gabbard. And that is all.
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Post by lakeshow on Jul 1, 2020 21:13:48 GMT -8
The New York Times went "full gangsta" on Mount Rushmore.
They ran a hit piece on Mount Rushmore! First they want to cancel freedom of speech and all our statues and now they want to cancel Mount Rushmore. Unbelievable! That was the final straw for me. Tonight I re-registered to vote with the choice of party No party. The reason is because Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green and Constitution parties all currently have zero morals and shit values!
By the way, my state categorizes the following political parties the same. If you support Party for Socialism and Liberation, Alliance Party, Prohibition Party, Bread & Roses Party, Legal Marijuana Now Party, Unity Party, American Solidarity Party, Socialist Action, Socialist Equality Party, Socialist Workers Party, or Transhumanist Party you can choose Other. That's how hillbilly our voting registration is.
I seem to identify with several core values of the Alliance Party, however their candidate seems goofball-ish to me. (In 2016 he ran as a Democrat and finished 4th in the primary election behind Hillary Cliinton. In 2020 he ran as a Republican in the primary as late as March 10, 2020, but later became the first Presidential nominee of the Alliance Party on April 25, 2020. He is a critic of Trump, however.) But that's not who I want as President and I don't think his victory would be good for America.
Also I share many core values with the Unity Party. However, their candidate seems to be unvetted and pretty much unknown. I will not vote for an unknown person. I feel that is very dangerous.
The two independent candidates are Mark Charles and Joe Schriner. I am unable to find enough information on these two candidates. So these guys are unknowns to me.
I am a left leaning populist who watches The Kyle Kulinski Show and The Jimmy Dore Show for politics. Barack Obama was my favorite President in U.S. history. That being said, there is not one candidate currently running who I would vote for.
If we could have rank choice voting, I would vote 1. Andrew Yang, 2. Kamala Harris, 3. Corey Booker, 4. Pete Buttigieg, 5. Tulsi Gabbard. And that is all.
I don’t understand half of what you said. But the only two candidates that matter at this point is the guy occupying the White House and Biden whether we like it or not. For people who want to see this madness end, the choice is very simple who to vote for in November.
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Post by history2b on Jul 1, 2020 21:37:02 GMT -8
The New York Times went "full gangsta" on Mount Rushmore.
They ran a hit piece on Mount Rushmore! First they want to cancel freedom of speech and all our statues and now they want to cancel Mount Rushmore. Unbelievable! That was the final straw for me. Tonight I re-registered to vote with the choice of party No party. The reason is because Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green and Constitution parties all currently have zero morals and shit values!
By the way, my state categorizes the following political parties the same. If you support Party for Socialism and Liberation, Alliance Party, Prohibition Party, Bread & Roses Party, Legal Marijuana Now Party, Unity Party, American Solidarity Party, Socialist Action, Socialist Equality Party, Socialist Workers Party, or Transhumanist Party you can choose Other. That's how hillbilly our voting registration is.
I seem to identify with several core values of the Alliance Party, however their candidate seems goofball-ish to me. (In 2016 he ran as a Democrat and finished 4th in the primary election behind Hillary Cliinton. In 2020 he ran as a Republican in the primary as late as March 10, 2020, but later became the first Presidential nominee of the Alliance Party on April 25, 2020. He is a critic of Trump, however.) But that's not who I want as President and I don't think his victory would be good for America. Also I share many core values with the Unity Party. However, their candidate seems to be unvetted and pretty much unknown. I will not vote for an unknown person. I feel that is very dangerous. The two independent candidates are Mark Charles and Joe Schriner. I am unable to find enough information on these two candidates. So these guys are unknowns to me.
I am a left leaning populist who watches The Kyle Kulinski Show and The Jimmy Dore Show for politics. Barack Obama was my favorite President in U.S. history. That being said, there is not one candidate currently running who I would vote for.
If we could have rank choice voting, I would vote 1. Andrew Yang, 2. Kamala Harris, 3. Corey Booker, 4. Pete Buttigieg, 5. Tulsi Gabbard. And that is all.
I don’t understand half of what you said. But the only two candidates that matter at this point is the guy occupying the White House and Biden whether we like it or not. For people who want to see this madness end, the choice is very simple who to vote for in November. Like many things wireman espouses half of what he said doesn’t even make sense. Like identifying as a “left wing populist” who would vote for Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg as 2nd and 4th picks despite neither being left wing nor populist. They’re both as Centrist as it gets in current American politics. Maybe it was Pete’s plagiarizing of Obama speeches that he thinks he likes. And the “Obama is my favorite of all time” but I wouldn’t vote for his VP whose policies more or less would be effectively the same policies as Obama except slightly more left leaning due to current social climate. But I’m sure it makes sense in his head. From what I can deduct, he likes the right rhetoric but action is secondary. Typical.
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Post by purpleandgold62 on Jul 16, 2020 6:03:43 GMT -8
I meant to say I was a left leaning populist as opposed to a left wing populist. And by that I mean when you take a political science quiz that shows where you are on the political spectrum, that is where I land.
As far as the particular candidates I support, that is based on their policies that I can support and I match with them very highly. I only match with Trump around 23% on policy which is the lowest of any candidate. I match with the other candidates I mentioned at 83% or higher.
In my view, Joe Biden is running as a right of center republican! He is very hawkish on war, he is against the green new deal, against medicare for all, and against legalizing marijuana. He appears to be far in declining health from what I have seen.
I understand Biden is going to be our next president, like it or not. electoralpolls.com has Biden leading in a landslide.
I don't believe Joe Biden is the same as Barack Obama just because Biden was Obama's vice president.
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Post by purpleandgold62 on Jul 16, 2020 6:11:49 GMT -8
Oh, and I still like this forum whether people rip me or not. I love the Lakers and when I did make a post in the past, I wanted to add something interesting or notable that was not already said. The content in this forum isn't found anywhere else on the internet. But as soon as the season re-starts, there will be less of me and more of you guys enjoying the games
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Post by lakeshow on Jul 16, 2020 14:45:22 GMT -8
I meant to say I was a left leaning populist as opposed to a left wing populist. And by that I mean when you take a political science quiz that shows where you are on the political spectrum, that is where I land. As far as the particular candidates I support, that is based on their policies that I can support and I match with them very highly. I only match with Trump around 23% on policy which is the lowest of any candidate. I match with the other candidates I mentioned at 83% or higher. In my view, Joe Biden is running as a right of center republican! He is very hawkish on war, he is against the green new deal, against medicare for all, and against legalizing marijuana. He appears to be far in declining health from what I have seen. I understand Biden is going to be our next president, like it or not. electoralpolls.com has Biden leading in a landslide. I don't believe Joe Biden is the same as Barack Obama just because Biden was Obama's vice president. Even if that alternative is 100% correct, that is 100 times better than what we have right now.
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Post by history2b on Jul 17, 2020 18:21:02 GMT -8
I meant to say I was a left leaning populist as opposed to a left wing populist. And by that I mean when you take a political science quiz that shows where you are on the political spectrum, that is where I land. As far as the particular candidates I support, that is based on their policies that I can support and I match with them very highly. I only match with Trump around 23% on policy which is the lowest of any candidate. I match with the other candidates I mentioned at 83% or higher. In my view, Joe Biden is running as a right of center republican! He is very hawkish on war, he is against the green new deal, against medicare for all, and against legalizing marijuana. He appears to be far in declining health from what I have seen. I understand Biden is going to be our next president, like it or not. electoralpolls.com has Biden leading in a landslide. I don't believe Joe Biden is the same as Barack Obama just because Biden was Obama's vice president. Dude, I don’t mean to pick on you because you seem like a decent guy, even though you are deliberately adversarial at times, but your arguments don’t make sense. I think you are right in your description of Biden on some fronts, Center right on some things for sure but he’s also center left on others. But regardless of those distinctions they are all virtually the same policies as Obama. It has nothing to do with being “the same” person as Barack in the unspecified way you described. Policy wise they are virtually the same and because he was his VP we don’t have speculate on unknowns, we know what he’s supported in the past. But he is NOT against the Green New Deal. He is in favor of it but only from a Centrist compromise pov. That is a problem but the alternative administration is full board anti Green New Deal. The literal furthest thing to it in every meaningful regard. I can support that statement with tons of evidence if necessary. So when someone tries to claim Joe does not support the GND, they are conflating the idea that the 2 candidates are the same in that regard. They aren’t and aren’t close by a long shot. Trump is the biggest criminal in human history.
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Post by hackashaq on Jul 18, 2020 18:21:59 GMT -8
I meant to say I was a left leaning populist as opposed to a left wing populist. And by that I mean when you take a political science quiz that shows where you are on the political spectrum, that is where I land. As far as the particular candidates I support, that is based on their policies that I can support and I match with them very highly. I only match with Trump around 23% on policy which is the lowest of any candidate. I match with the other candidates I mentioned at 83% or higher. In my view, Joe Biden is running as a right of center republican! He is very hawkish on war, he is against the green new deal, against medicare for all, and against legalizing marijuana. He appears to be far in declining health from what I have seen. I understand Biden is going to be our next president, like it or not. electoralpolls.com has Biden leading in a landslide. I don't believe Joe Biden is the same as Barack Obama just because Biden was Obama's vice president. Dude, I don’t mean to pick on you because you seem like a decent guy, even though you are deliberately adversarial at times, but your arguments don’t make sense. I think you are right in your description of Biden on some fronts, Center right on some things for sure but he’s also center left on others. But regardless of those distinctions they are all virtually the same policies as Obama. It has nothing to do with being “the same” person as Barack in the unspecified way you described. Policy wise they are virtually the same and because he was his VP we don’t have speculate on unknowns, we know what he’s supported in the past. But he is NOT against the Green New Deal. He is in favor of it but only from a Centrist compromise pov. That is a problem but the alternative administration is full board anti Green New Deal. The literal furthest thing to it in every meaningful regard. I can support that statement with tons of evidence if necessary. So when someone tries to claim Joe does not support the GND, they are conflating the idea that the 2 candidates are the same in that regard. They aren’t and aren’t close by a long shot. Trump is the biggest criminal in human history. Perfect is the enemy of the good. Please people, don’t f*ck this one up. Everyone’s lives literally depends on this Nov. Even if you hated Hilary, is anyone seriously thinking she wouldn’t have been better?
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