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Post by history2b on Jul 16, 2024 23:50:41 GMT -8
Re: Biden’s speech about violence after the assassination attempt. It wasn’t so much that he said the things he said about Trump that stood out to me. That was the response one would expect, but that he correlated it to violence not being ok in America in general.
Fast food workers are attacked and even killed for getting orders wrong. People fight each other in parking lots at sporting events for looking at each other the wrong way. Children at schools beat the shit out of other students they don’t like to the point of even death now.
These things weren’t like this in the 20th century. Not to say there wasn’t violence, because of course there was, but the level of violence over the pettiest of reasons is higher now than I can ever remember. There is an anger resonating throughout society for about a decade or so now that is unlike any other time in modern US history imo.
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jul 18, 2024 6:31:07 GMT -8
Growing calls for Biden to step away and let someone else be the candidate. Now he has tweeted that he has Covid and supposedly Kamala wants the job. Not sure Kamala would be much more of a winning ticket but I suppose a smart VP choice could help alot.
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Post by samadams10 on Jul 18, 2024 8:55:40 GMT -8
Growing calls for Biden to step away and let someone else be the candidate. Now he has tweeted that he has Covid and supposedly Kamala wants the job. Not sure Kamala would be much more of a winning ticket but I suppose a smart VP choice could help alot. Don't have any confidence in kamala. Probably a trump win. I think newsom has a better chance. Kamala hasn't done anything except say random nonsensical shit with unnecessary cackles. Yesterday is tomorrow's today or some crap like that. Plus her record on the border is weak as well as SF DA and CA Atty. Feel free to disagree.
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jul 18, 2024 10:13:27 GMT -8
I don't disagree. I don't think she's a winning candidate but maybe they think she's got a better chance than Biden if she can get a good VP to run with her. Maybe they're willing to try anything if they truly believe Biden doesn't stand a chance.
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Post by lakeshow on Jul 18, 2024 12:24:15 GMT -8
Kamala is not going to beat Trump.
But if there is any chance for Trump to go down Biden must step down at this point, it's just getting worse and worse for him. It might even be too late.
I would prefer Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan over anybody else personally.
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Post by hackashaq on Jul 18, 2024 13:17:02 GMT -8
I think the Republicans are salivating over Kamala. I'm sure they're thinking Trump would easily beat her.
While I don't know if that is true, and they have polled a potential matchup like that, I don't know of any other potential candidate that is a clear consensus winner that can quickly take advantage of Biden's existing campaign machinery.
If any other candidate need to spin up a whole campaign, I have no idea how that can become a reality in such short a time.
Then again, Biden stepping down is not so much an act designed to win the presidency as it is to preserve the Senate while having a slim chance of saving/winning the House. Dem strategist may have already given up the Presidency at this point.
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jul 18, 2024 13:46:46 GMT -8
I think the Republicans are salivating over Kamala. I'm sure they're thinking Trump would easily beat her. While I don't know if that is true, and they have polled a potential matchup like that, I don't know of any other potential candidate that is a clear consensus winner that can quickly take advantage of Biden's existing campaign machinery. If any other candidate need to spin up a whole campaign, I have no idea how that can become a reality in such short a time. Then again, Biden stepping down is not so much an act designed to win the presidency as it is to preserve the Senate while having a slim chance of saving/winning the House. Dem strategist may have already given up the Presidency at this point. If Trump wins the election then preserving the Senate majority is absolutely the Dem top priority. But I'm not sure Kamala makes that more likely. I don't think it's likely to flip the house though.
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Post by samadams10 on Jul 18, 2024 13:52:30 GMT -8
Kamala is not going to beat Trump. But if there is any chance for Trump to go down Biden must step down at this point, it's just getting worse and worse for him. It might even be too late. I would prefer Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan over anybody else personally. I like Whitmer but I'm not sure the misogyny won't rear it's head. Hate to put it this way but a lot is at stake and put a white man in there who's a sure bet. Saving the Senate and Congress won't matter shit when they've got the supreme Court in their pocket. Another R win means 3 more appointments.
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jul 18, 2024 14:14:03 GMT -8
And just like that...
Biden is announcing he is OUT.
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Post by lakeshow on Jul 18, 2024 14:25:56 GMT -8
And just like that... Biden is announcing he is OUT. I don't see any reports about this. At least not yet.
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jul 18, 2024 14:50:25 GMT -8
And just like that... Biden is announcing he is OUT. I don't see any reports about this. At least not yet. Nothing is official yet so it's still a believe it when I see it thing in some ways but the writing is on the wall. When Obama and Schumer say you're out, you're out. He'll reportedly officially announce as soon as this Sunday and a candidate will be chosen at the convention. @markhalperin BREAKING NEWS: Multiples sources outline the apparent state of play on Biden at this time: * plans to announce withdrawal from nomination as early as this weekend, with Sunday most likely * Jon Meacham polishing up remarks * Biden with NOT resign the presidency * Biden will NOT endorse Harris * open convention with Harris and about 3 others * super delegates will not be allowed to vote on 1st ballot * Harris is vetting at least four possible running mates, including Andy Beshear and possibly Shapiro Video: x.com/NEWSMAX/status/1814058148317343804?t=rM2HXJKOFUHe8V4cf36MAQ&s=19
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Post by history2b on Jul 18, 2024 15:04:16 GMT -8
There are reports circulating he’s accepted that he needs to bow out. Effectively it means he sees the polling in battleground states where he is getting beat handily by Trump.
Obama made a statement saying something along the lines of Biden’s path to victory having shrunk “significantly.”
It’s only a matter of making it official at this point. Now the DNC can go into their pool of corporate sponsored coalition of identity politics derived candidates and lose handily.
Should have been future thinking a looong time ago and will pay the consequences now.
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Post by samadams10 on Jul 18, 2024 15:13:21 GMT -8
Biden is cooked.
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Post by hackashaq on Jul 18, 2024 15:23:06 GMT -8
I think if what you are reporting is true, it's the best thing for the Dems.
Again, the presidency is probably too late to win, but this might be the best move to preserve the legislature as a buffer.
If Harris, Whitmer, Newsom, Pritzker, etc gains the ticket, I think they have a better shot than Biden has at this point.
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Post by lakeshow on Jul 18, 2024 22:11:23 GMT -8
And by the way F Hulk Hogan.
I grew up watching him as a kid when I watched WWF wrestling. While I had a feeling he was on the Trump train, seeing the report that he spoke at the RNC tonight just made me throw up and regret ever being a fan of his as kid.
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Post by samadams10 on Jul 19, 2024 6:18:19 GMT -8
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jul 19, 2024 7:43:39 GMT -8
On one hand I kinda want Biden to be defiant and stay in since he didn't bow out before the primary. Just reeks of backdoor undemocratic BS now, almost rigging the process, with them choosing at the coming convention. They did Sanders wrong during the last real convention.
On the other hand, he's done and should have dropped out willingly himself before the primary. Can't fault the Dems for wanting to control things and timing it this way in an effort to try and gain some more momentum. Right now there isn't much and if it keeps looking like a Trump win is coming then that won't be good for voter turnout. It needs to look more close and winnable even if it isn't and they probably need a fresh new ticket for that.
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Post by lakeshow on Jul 19, 2024 7:52:22 GMT -8
F Tiger too. Washed up bum.
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Post by hackashaq on Jul 19, 2024 17:00:25 GMT -8
Golf is one of those sports where the players' politics tend to be just slightly left of Attila the Hun. There are some virulent conservatives on the PGA Tour including among the announcers. Shouldn't be surprised considering the sport is essentially a glorified country club activity.
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Post by shaolinfighter on Jul 21, 2024 8:07:54 GMT -8
Looks like Joe may stay in after all. Big yikes
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