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Post by lakeshow on Aug 31, 2024 13:09:04 GMT -8
In terms of questions or responses? Little bit of both. To me, Kamala seems unprepared for a debate against Trump. I think its a strong probability the debate(s) will not go well for her. And her sticking to her guns saying Biden was perfectly fine, sharp, smart, healthy blah blah blah is just a joke. Anybody with two honest eyes could see Biden should have dropped out earlier and let the process of picking a new party candidate play out properly. I didn't think Walz came across very strong and his "answer" about stolen valor was weak... there wasn't enough push-back from Dana Bash when his excuse was 20 years of bad grammar. Vance doesn't seem very talented to me but I'm not very confident in Walz on a debate stage with him either. This whole thing is an absolute shit show and an embarrassment to our country. And now RFK Jr has endorsed Trump which will swing the vote a little more his way. The election is going to be close either way it goes and the shit show will roll on. I’m not sure how anybody would expect her to say otherwise. What should she have said, that calling her old boss was unfit for the job? That wasn’t going to happen. The only thing she could really say was that even if she felt otherwise. In fairness the interview was neither great nor awful to me. She has flip flopped on issues but so is Trump now on the whole abortion issue as he now sees that his position on pro-life is hurting him in this election. The obsession why he now supports that pro-life law in FL is because he knows if he stands against it, he loses key votes from conservative voters in that state in November. And by the way, the one thing Kamala is doing very well at is not taking the bait. All the racist and sexist comments thrown at her from Trump, she’s not even flinching. All she is saying is, “next question” with a smile. Trump is clearly bothered by it too. Walz is clearly more likable than Vance regardless of his interview performance as Vance clearly cannot get out of his own way whenever he opens his mouth. And Walz has been a successful governor in Minnesota as well. As far as RFK Jr……if you want to call anybody a “joke” it’s him. Not even an explanation needed. Dude went to both campaigns and asked for a job in their administration in return for his endorsement. I’m glad Kamala hung up the phone on that clown. Trump can have him. If Kamala loses, trust and believe it’s not going to be because he got the almighty RFK endorsement. He’s clearly a lying self-serving conspiracy loving anti-vaccine piece of s*** chimp. The only thing that’s a “shit show” is Donald Trump being anywhere close to power. Whatever Kamala’s shortcomings are they pale in comparison to having Orange Fuck Face back in the White House.
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Post by lakeshow on Aug 31, 2024 13:10:37 GMT -8
Nah, the one thing Dems have over Repubs for sure this time is Walz over Vance. It’s not even close. VPs don’t win elections though they just tip scales a bit. When it comes to elections likability matters a lot. JD Vance isn’t very likable and doesn’t have any ideas or plans to improve the country at all. The things he says he ends up sticking his foot in his mouth. Walz on the other hand is likable, quick with wit and can at least rely on some record of doing something in government. In a debate Vance gets trashed imo but no one really cares too much about the VP debates. Exactly right about Walz and what I just alluded to in my previous response.
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Post by history2b on Aug 31, 2024 21:26:05 GMT -8
Didn’t watch Kamala’s interview, no need to imo. It’s a tee’d up toss from the Dem friendly network. Rightfully so in sense that Fox News on the other hand is very openly only highlighting the salacious negatives about both Biden and now Kamala/ Walz while not only teeing up softballs for trump that often times goes 10 steps further and fellates him.
The CNN softballs are a given now a days thanks to Trump. Wouldn’t want to get called nasty for asking tough questions for which he has no answers. No let’s play this political theater game instead.
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Post by shaolinfighter on Sept 1, 2024 6:01:53 GMT -8
Yeah I actually thought CNN was a little tougher on Kamala with the questions than I thought they would be whether the questions or pre-screened or not.
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Post by lakeshow on Sept 2, 2024 18:12:46 GMT -8
On a slightly different note, yesterday I was doing some work at a coffee shop in Torrance, CA.
While I was working, an elderly white man (looked like he was in his 80s) with a Trump hat came up and started a conversation with me. Of course, my initial thought reaction was, "Ok what does this man want to talk to me about that could possibly be worth my time and what's going to be the ignorant statement that is about to come out of his mouth?"
To my surprise, this was one of the nicest people I have spoken to in a while. We got into a conversation about the Lakers as he was a big Laker fan. He told me Magic is his all-time favorite and things he liked about Magic off the court. He loved what Wilt did on the court too. We talked a little bit about his life, his family, and the work he likes to do overseas helping the poor. The man even bought me a drink. We never talked politics as I felt it wasn't necessary and I didn't want to be disrespectful towards this man. For his age he certainly still looked sharp minded. I could tell he liked to stay active and that he genuinely liked people.
All that said, I know that people are complicated (all of us are to a degree) but part of me felt ashamed for judging this man before I got into a conversation with him, but another part of me couldn't and still can't reconcile his support for Trump while at the same time being as kind as he was to me. I know not all Trump supporters are like Trump, but at the same time I have a hard time understanding the support for him from people who seem to genuinely be the opposite of him but will support him no matter what. It's a dilemma that I have yet to understand. I understand policy differences, but I don't understand the seemingly blind loyalty to a man who clearly cares more for himself than anyone else--including his own family.
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Post by samadams10 on Sept 2, 2024 19:59:20 GMT -8
On a slightly different note, yesterday I was doing some work at a coffee shop in Torrance, CA. While I was working, an elderly white man (looked like he was in his 80s) with a Trump hat came up and started a conversation with me. Of course, my initial thought reaction was, "Ok what does this man want to talk to me about that could possibly be worth my time and what's going to be the ignorant statement that is about to come out of his mouth?" To my surprise, this was one of the nicest people I have spoken to in a while. We got into a conversation about the Lakers as he was a big Laker fan. He told me Magic is his all-time favorite and things he liked about Magic off the court. He loved what Wilt did on the court too. We talked a little bit about his life, his family, and the work he likes to do overseas helping the poor. The man even bought me a drink. We never talked politics as I felt it wasn't necessary and I didn't want to be disrespectful towards this man. For his age he certainly still looked sharp minded. I could tell he liked to stay active and that he genuinely liked people. All that said, I know that people are complicated (all of us are to a degree) but part of me felt ashamed for judging this man before I got into a conversation with him, but another part of me couldn't and still can't reconcile his support for Trump while at the same time being as kind as he was to me. I know not all Trump supporters are like Trump, but at the same time I have a hard time understanding the support for him from people who seem to genuinely be the opposite of him but will support him no matter what. It's a dilemma that I have yet to understand. I understand policy differences, but I don't understand the seemingly blind loyalty to a man who clearly cares more for himself than anyone else--including his own family. I can completely relate. Have run into some highly educated, decent, family oriented guys who bafflingly have blinders on for this man. Its very tough to reconcile. These are folks with multiple engineering degrees to accountants with successful careers. They call him a man who takes care of his family (affairs with porn stars), man who is highly successful in business (multiple bankruptcues), had nothing to do with Jan 11 and was calling the national guard but pelosi said no (really now), legitimately win the 2020 election (his own appointed judges said no evidence to support this) and their portfolio is down and was much higher under him (Dow and nasdaq are literally at all time highs). The emotion that has been embroiled into politics is unbelievable and makes seemingly smart people completely illogical and anti facts. Crazy phenomena but I guess in humanity's DNA judging for history.
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Post by history2b on Sept 2, 2024 20:42:43 GMT -8
On a slightly different note, yesterday I was doing some work at a coffee shop in Torrance, CA. While I was working, an elderly white man (looked like he was in his 80s) with a Trump hat came up and started a conversation with me. Of course, my initial thought reaction was, "Ok what does this man want to talk to me about that could possibly be worth my time and what's going to be the ignorant statement that is about to come out of his mouth?" To my surprise, this was one of the nicest people I have spoken to in a while. We got into a conversation about the Lakers as he was a big Laker fan. He told me Magic is his all-time favorite and things he liked about Magic off the court. He loved what Wilt did on the court too. We talked a little bit about his life, his family, and the work he likes to do overseas helping the poor. The man even bought me a drink. We never talked politics as I felt it wasn't necessary and I didn't want to be disrespectful towards this man. For his age he certainly still looked sharp minded. I could tell he liked to stay active and that he genuinely liked people. All that said, I know that people are complicated (all of us are to a degree) but part of me felt ashamed for judging this man before I got into a conversation with him, but another part of me couldn't and still can't reconcile his support for Trump while at the same time being as kind as he was to me. I know not all Trump supporters are like Trump, but at the same time I have a hard time understanding the support for him from people who seem to genuinely be the opposite of him but will support him no matter what. It's a dilemma that I have yet to understand. I understand policy differences, but I don't understand the seemingly blind loyalty to a man who clearly cares more for himself than anyone else--including his own family. I know some genuinely wonderful people who still support him too. Believe it or not I try very hard to understand the root of the person without judgement of this specific political position. I see an opening for common ground discussions between us all again like it was before Trump. No matter what anyone says otherwise, he exploited the misinformation channels of media while whipping up the supporters to become agitators. He’s dragged us all down into the mud. Etiquette and decorum all not only forgotten but there seems to be an unspoken contest to see who can sink the further in terms of class and common courtesy of one another fellow citizens. All that said, one thing is for certain, anyone who supports Trump is getting conned, without question, because he does not have and never will have “the answers” to solve societies problems when in fact, his entire life has been at the exploitation of all who deal with him. How much public debt has he incurred with all his bankruptcies? Fraud dealings? Money laundering. Literally anything that will squeeze dollars for him to drain and leave everyone else fucked over on a long enough timeline. Fairly intelligent people I’ve known have some sort of complex mythical rationalization of how he’s going to do what he’s saying. Its just delusional. But so is thinking the Dems are going to save us imo. I think they stave off some of the pain but they don’t really solve problems either. Theyre both controlled by corporations. Through the house, senate, Supreme Court, local municipals. There is a free for all for corporate bribery and manipulation. Trump is undoubtably worse but I think their latent incompetence and corporate bidding is what is sending people to fall for Trump. There’s literally no other alternative. I think RFK Jr is a kook. Had many outstanding points and criticisms of the state and private sector. Dems fought to keep him off the ballots all over this country. Now he’s bowed out and given his endorsement to Trump. Lol. Like mf never had any intention of fixing the things he politicked on. Still, the Dems should not be focused on limiting democracy. Focus on your party, with real goals that you intend to accomplish because it’s necessary not optional. This type of anti democratic focus is what sours people to both parties.
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Post by history2b on Sept 5, 2024 18:04:19 GMT -8
JD Dumbfuck Vance calls school shootings a “fact of life” re: something that is just going to happen like the right wing excuse maker cuck that he is.
His plan for school shootings is “better security” re: place the onus on stopping intricately planned terrorists plots with “security” at places of children’s education. “Security” can be a low wage job for a marginally trained employee to handle a small firearm. The obvious result of doing something like this is for the shooter to plan to shoot the low wage employee first then plot the next path of destruction.
For piece of shit dumbfucks like JD Vance, refusing to talk about the regulation of firearms is sticking to the Republican script on the matter. He has no original thoughts or plans on this or any matter. Just another grifter looking to profit an openly corrupt system.
Choke on King Kongs cock you fucking low life.
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Post by lakeshow on Sept 6, 2024 18:31:27 GMT -8
JD Dumbfuck Vance calls school shootings a “fact of life” re: something that is just going to happen like the right wing excuse maker cuck that he is. His plan for school shootings is “better security” re: place the onus on stopping intricately planned terrorists plots with “security” at places of children’s education. “Security” can be a low wage job for a marginally trained employee to handle a small firearm. The obvious result of doing something like this is for the shooter to plan to shoot the low wage employee first then plot the next path of destruction. For piece of shit dumbfucks like JD Vance, refusing to talk about the regulation of firearms is sticking to the Republican script on the matter. He has no original thoughts or plans on this or any matter. Just another grifter looking to profit an openly corrupt system. Choke on King Kongs cock you fucking low life. I’m so sick of this 2b. As a teacher, these always strike me hard. But until the stranglehold that the NRA has on these Republican politicians is broken this will continue to happen unfortunately. And they’ll just continue to repeat the same old tired line of the need to bring bring more guns into the schools to thwart these attacks.
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Post by history2b on Sept 7, 2024 8:27:08 GMT -8
On the subject of childcare, something JD Vance personally should have vested interest since his viral criticism of certain Americans was directed at women without children.
When asked what he would do to help alleviate the costs of childcare he said to rely on grandma and grandpa. That’s his solution as a federally empowered representative. In many many other countries the solution comes from federal programs that subsidize daycare costs significantly and give long term maternal and paternal leave. In France for example the cost of daycare for entire month can be as little as $55. In Germany even less. Because smart developed countries know that it is in their interest as a nation to encourage working parents to have affordable childcare.
Not in Dumbfuckisran. Call grandma and grandpa.
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Post by lakeshow on Sept 7, 2024 8:46:50 GMT -8
On the subject of childcare, something JD Vance personally should have vested interest since his viral criticism of certain Americans was directed at women without children. When asked what he would do to help alleviate the costs of childcare he said to rely on grandma and grandpa. That’s his solution as a federally empowered representative. In many many other countries the solution comes from federal programs that subsidize daycare costs significantly and give long term maternal and paternal leave. In France for example the cost of daycare for entire month can be as little as $55. In Germany even less. Because smart developed countries know that it is in their interest as a nation to encourage working parents to have affordable childcare. Not in Dumbfuckisran. Call grandma and grandpa. Yes, and further, I have a friend who visits Sweden a couple times a year because his wife is Swedish and he has a home there too now. The medical costs for an injury he had there was significantly cheaper there for what it would have costed him here in the U.S. And the kind of care he got was very good. He would have paid 10 times as more for his injury here. Neither do you see people on the streets because they have dementia or other medical issues that they cannot afford over there either. But here in the good ole US of A we do. Yet, we claim that we have the best healthcare in the world and the government can continue to con Americans into thinking that because Americans have been brainwashed to believe that everything that is "socialist" is evil. Yet, these same people who claim they stand against socialism don't even know they benefit from it every single day.
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Post by history2b on Sept 7, 2024 10:24:30 GMT -8
On the subject of childcare, something JD Vance personally should have vested interest since his viral criticism of certain Americans was directed at women without children. When asked what he would do to help alleviate the costs of childcare he said to rely on grandma and grandpa. That’s his solution as a federally empowered representative. In many many other countries the solution comes from federal programs that subsidize daycare costs significantly and give long term maternal and paternal leave. In France for example the cost of daycare for entire month can be as little as $55. In Germany even less. Because smart developed countries know that it is in their interest as a nation to encourage working parents to have affordable childcare. Not in Dumbfuckisran. Call grandma and grandpa. Yes, and further, I have a friend who visits Sweden a couple times a year because his wife is Swedish and he has a home there too now. The medical costs for an injury he had there was significantly cheaper there for what it would have costed him here in the U.S. And the kind of care he got was very good. He would have paid 10 times as more for his injury here. Neither do you see people on the streets because they have dementia or other medical issues that they cannot afford over there either. But here in the good ole US of A we do. Yet, we claim that we have the best healthcare in the world and the government can continue to con Americans into thinking that because Americans have been brainwashed to believe that everything that is "socialist" is evil. Yet, these same people who claim they stand against socialism don't even know they benefit from it every single day. But but the Squad is tearing America apart by pointing out exactly what you just said. They are extremists who make clear thinking independents pine for the days of staying in the middle of Republicrat politics. Every country has significantly cheaper healthcare and significantly less mental health crisis’. Every single one. America has financialized every element of society to artificially inflate its economy. Get the fed to actually fix these problems would mean less money lining the pockets of Americans who serve no purpose except to exploit other Americans financially. On that note Dick Cheney, Iraq war architect and Bush 2 policy mastermind, has officially endorsed Kamala Harris. Because you know, she’s so “far left” with Trump calling her “Comrade Kamala” and “further left than Bernie Sanders” and yet Dick Cheney supports her. Lol
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Post by lakeshow on Sept 7, 2024 16:20:00 GMT -8
Yes, and further, I have a friend who visits Sweden a couple times a year because his wife is Swedish and he has a home there too now. The medical costs for an injury he had there was significantly cheaper there for what it would have costed him here in the U.S. And the kind of care he got was very good. He would have paid 10 times as more for his injury here. Neither do you see people on the streets because they have dementia or other medical issues that they cannot afford over there either. But here in the good ole US of A we do. Yet, we claim that we have the best healthcare in the world and the government can continue to con Americans into thinking that because Americans have been brainwashed to believe that everything that is "socialist" is evil. Yet, these same people who claim they stand against socialism don't even know they benefit from it every single day. But but the Squad is tearing America apart by pointing out exactly what you just said. They are extremists who make clear thinking independents pine for the days of staying in the middle of Republicrat politics. Every country has significantly cheaper healthcare and significantly less mental health crisis’. Every single one. America has financialized every element of society to artificially inflate its economy. Get the fed to actually fix these problems would mean less money lining the pockets of Americans who serve no purpose except to exploit other Americans financially. On that note Dick Cheney, Iraq war architect and Bush 2 policy mastermind, has officially endorsed Kamala Harris. Because you know, she’s so “far left” with Trump calling her “Comrade Kamala” and “further left than Bernie Sanders” and yet Dick Cheney supports her. Lol Man if Dick Cheney is now openly endorsing and going to vote for Kamala, you know there are thousands of quiet anti-Trump Republicans who feel the same way, except they're too chicken s*** to come out and publicly say anything for fear of being ostracized by friends and family or because they want to stay in their seat of power and fear that criticizing Trump jeopardizes them from holding on to power. As more and more high-profile Republicans come out to support Kamala, it only underscores how much intra-party division there is in the Republican Party right now. And When Kamala wins on election night, you're going to see all these quiet anti-Trump Republicans quickly turn on MAGA because at that point it would be politically expedient to do so as there's no way he will be able to come back from this politically. And I'm going to have my popcorn out enjoying the s***show unfold on Fox News.
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Post by history2b on Sept 9, 2024 11:05:40 GMT -8
Trump pulls ahead of Harris in the latest polls conducted. Ever so slight edge but an edge nonetheless. Not sure where you were getting your info Terence about a Kamala wipeout of Trump but I think that was DNC induced media smoke.
The debate is going to tilt the scales.
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Post by lakeshow on Sept 9, 2024 13:00:22 GMT -8
Trump pulls ahead of Harris in the latest polls conducted. Ever so slight edge but an edge nonetheless. Not sure where you were getting your info Terence about a Kamala wipeout of Trump but I think that was DNC induced media smoke. The debate is going to tilt the scales. What I said was that I predicted a win for her but that I wouldn't be surprised if it's a landslide win in her favor. I didn't get that from any Democrat leaning media source, that is just my own feeling. Of course the polls are going to fluctuate from now until the end because they are only a snapshot of the state of the race, but I'm still picking Kamala to win. Further, there a ton of polls out there. Some have her winning, some show it's tied, and some show Trump ahead. Depends on what polls you look at. What I find really interesting though is all the folks who criticized Biden because of his age are nowhere to be found when it comes to Trump and his age and fitness. He can't even respond coherently to a simple question anymore. Where's all the pushback against this fool???
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Post by history2b on Sept 9, 2024 20:46:12 GMT -8
Really? The Republicans have long mastered the “what applies to you doesn’t apply to me” over perhaps a century? Can’t say for sure cause I wasn’t around then but in my lifetime that was crystal clear to me.
The move by the DNC to remove Biden and replace him with someone 20+ years younger was a chess move. Suddenly the idea of age, mental capacity and cognitive decline all magically don’t matter. Trump is DESPERATELY trying to find anything that sticks as a slur against Kamala, to no avail thus far.
With Obama it was the birther bullshit. With Clinton it was the emails. With Biden it was his mental decline. He literally can’t campaign on anything else nor does he have a single plan of action to do anything productive. He’s a slur machine who attracts people who are angry and afraid but also have no clue about how to fix anything.
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Post by lakeshow on Sept 10, 2024 11:04:29 GMT -8
Really? The Republicans have long mastered the “what applies to you doesn’t apply to me” over perhaps a century? Can’t say for sure cause I wasn’t around then but in my lifetime that was crystal clear to me. The move by the DNC to remove Biden and replace him with someone 20+ years younger was a chess move. Suddenly the idea of age, mental capacity and cognitive decline all magically don’t matter. Trump is DESPERATELY trying to find anything that sticks as a slur against Kamala, to no avail thus far. With Obama it was the birther bullshit. With Clinton it was the emails. With Biden it was his mental decline. He literally can’t campaign on anything else nor does he have a single plan of action to do anything productive. He’s a slur machine who attracts people who are angry and afraid but also have no clue about how to fix anything. Wasn't just Republicans complaining about Biden's fitness, progressives were too....
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Post by history2b on Sept 10, 2024 11:39:51 GMT -8
Some progressives were but most real progressives abandoned the Dem party long ago. They couldn’t care less what the Dems put up because it’s a platform controlled by factions of corporate America.
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Post by history2b on Sept 10, 2024 17:17:02 GMT -8
10 minutes into the debate and it’s already over. Kamala is not a debater, she’s rolling on details that people who are listening don’t pick up on.
Trump speaks out of his ass but he hammers away on the things people who don’t know shit, pick up on. She’s already backpedaling and playing his game.
On the subject of economy, something a con fucktard knows nothing except to pass the buck elsewhere, is still holding strong on the perception. She needed to put doubt in that ability and she’s failed imo.
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Post by history2b on Sept 10, 2024 17:33:17 GMT -8
The problem with Kamala’s prep, her talking points come across too much like talking points. She could be right about the things she’s saying but she sounds like a politician.
Trump has exploited Washington by contrasting against political talking points and politician speak precisely because Americans hate it so much.
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